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[-] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 38 points 4 days ago

Signs and stuff I can kind of understand. Our world is chock full of things (ads) that try to get our attention at any point. At some point you develop an internal adblock and since 98% is irrelevant it is a reasonable drawback that the remaining 2% gets filtered out as well.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

Perfectly fair point. But in business you're supposed to read emails to know what you're supposed to do. But no one does. (too many emails)

Menus have the descriptions of what you want to eat but no one reads them (too vain to wear glasses?)

Forget the creative writing work you've been doing. I mean. Y'know. That's a given.

Sign, Sign, Everywhere a sign, Blocking out the scenery, Breaking my mind

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

But in business you’re supposed to read emails to know what you’re supposed to do.

So often I get a set of instructions that's missing information, out of date, or deliberately misleading.

I'm often on the line with support walking through the steps and saying "How did you get from D to E?" and then finding out there's a second secret set of instructions only tech support has - possibly even a different website or application - that they don't want to tell you about unless you're talking to an agent for some reason.

Menus have the descriptions of what you want to eat but no one reads them

Sometimes. Often they do not. They also regularly use shorthand or code.

My favorite is a series of red chili peppers next to a menu item. If I order the 1 pepper meal, am I going to be shitting blood for a weak? If I order the 5 pepper meal, are you going to White Guy Spicy it for the table because not everyone looks like they can handle it? It's anyone's guess. If I don't explicitly see the words "peanut" or "shellfish", am I confident it won't have allergens?

Why even have a waiter if you're not allowed to ask these questions, anyway? Just make everything a vending machine.

[-] Ceedoestrees@lemmy.world 38 points 4 days ago
[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 49 points 4 days ago

I have always had the opposite problem. You put written words in front of me, and I am compelled to read them. I only stopped reading TOS/EULAs because they're always the same! You read 10 of em, you start to see they're all exactly the same, with just names being changed.

[-] 200ok@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

What's the tl;dr for most TOS?

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 42 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You agree to not break the law using their product, you agree to arbitration instead of going to a real court (which the company would pay for, not you, so please actually take them up on this en mass), you agree to not reverse engineer the code, reproduce the code or redistribute the code, etc. Long ass lists of what you can and can not use it for. Sometimes there's funny shit in there like the tos for iTunes disallows you to use the software to create nuclear weapons. Idk how you would use iTunes for that but I guess they wanted all their bases covered.

Tl;Dr - "You agree to be raped in the asshole by capitalism."

[-] 200ok@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago
[-] RoosterBoy@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

They forgot the "we have the right to take away the thing you paid for at any time, for any or no reason, with no refunds" clause.

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Are you asking for an easy EULA?

[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 4 points 3 days ago

I read everything, what's wrong with everyone else?

[-] Jojowski@sopuli.xyz 21 points 4 days ago

Ah yes.

Also: instead of googling for the opening times better waste everyone's time by sending a text or an email to the shop and making them spell it out for you!

Also: if you see the shop is clearly closed, lights aren't on and you can see the opening times on the door and they say it's not open but someone is inside better start knocking because surely they wish to serve you.

Also: never read the instructions of a product. Instead complain that it's broken and demand a new product. Repeat.

Also: if you see a price list/menu/price tag or similar and you accidentally read it, better double check the price by asking "does this item cost what it says here"

Also: "employees only" actually means "for adventurous customers"

Also: if it says push, pull, if it says pull, push.

[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 7 points 4 days ago

sending a text or an email to the shop and making them spell it out for you!

That’s because the shops know that no-one reads the website and doesn’t bother to update the opening hours when they change.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

This is the PTSD of working with customers talking.

Many of us recognize it well.

[-] dch82@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

Also: if it says push, pull, if it says pull, push.

If there is a handle I pull, if there is a plate I push.

I hate combo plate/handles

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Also a big fan of

if you see a price list/menu/price tag or similar and you accidentally read it, better double check the price by asking “does this item cost what it says here”

Because it happens when management has three different prices and five confusing "discount" offers scattered in line of sight. Is this 50% off or does that happen at the register or does it no longer apply? And you've got the same thing on the menu as a side and a meal, which one am I ordering, again?

And

“employees only” actually means “for adventurous customers”

Oh, bathroom for employees only? At every location inside three city blocks? I guess I should just take a crap on the floor.

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[-] salvaria 29 points 4 days ago
[-] subtext@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

Explain it to me, but don’t use any words

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 3 days ago

Truth.

I've been in software development for 25 year at this point, and this is my #1 takeaway. No matter what it is, people won't read it.

"Trevor" is not a valid integer. This will erase your database. This will share your porn habits with our 1832 trusted data partners. Click click click, get out of my way!

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago

I worked gate security at a baseball stadium. Right next to where I stood there were two huge signs reading "No Smoking" and "No Re-entry". Guess what questions I got asked all day.

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[-] noodlejetski@lemm.ee 6 points 4 days ago
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[-] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 days ago

I dont wanna say the average person is stupid but they make it really difficult to not think so.
Call it illiterate tunnel vision or whatever else youd like, but come one.
Heres some personal examples from work:

  1. big neonsign at the door at eyeheight telling people when the store opens, 1 out of 6 people looks at it the rest doesnt even see it, one once was even mad and blew out the doorglass with a kick.
  2. registers, big neon signs to say "hey douchenozzle, next one this is closed) and even when another worker is waiting and lookin at the person, they still dont get until you loudly talk to them to come to the other one.
  3. god forbid someone needs something in another part of the store, unless you use children level semantics (go to blue line for example) they never find what they looking for.

those are just my personal examples but outside of that you see it seemingly everywhere.

[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 8 points 4 days ago

big neonsign at the door at eyeheight telling people when the store opens, 1 out of 6 people looks at it the rest doesnt even see it, one once was even mad and blew out the doorglass with a kick.

This sounds like real-world banner blindness. Almost all neon signs are ads or usless bling-bling to catch your attention. It’s no wonder people don’t look at them anymore.

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[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 3 points 4 days ago

registers, big neon signs to say "hey douchenozzle, next one this is closed)

This is just bad design. Almost comically, your sign shouts, “Look at me, there’s nothing to see here”. You’re drawing attention away from where people should go. Of course this isn’t going to work.

Whoever thought advertising a closed register was a good idea needs to have their idea generator checked.

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[-] Atlas_@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago

A significant fraction of America is illiterate. 21% or 1/5. Yeah.

[-] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 days ago

It's even worse than that:

21% of adults in the US are illiterate in 2024. 54% of adults have a literacy below a 6th-grade level (20% are below 5th-grade level).

So 1/5 can't read at all, and over HALF can't read better than an 11 year old.

[-] Twitches@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago

Anyone curious, I fact checked this and according to snopes it's true. This is just sad.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/08/02/us-literacy-rate/

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 points 3 days ago

Which is wild.
I need to write to a 3rd grade level, and don't think it is possible.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

How does that work out, are there 50% of 11 yo in the USA?

:-) Jk

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[-] conc@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 days ago

And yet, the documentation must be written

[-] sheogorath@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

There's this one guy in the office who were so adamantly anti writing documentation, he basically pored through the contract to find loopholes to state that doing documentation is not actually part of his job description.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 3 days ago

I love it when uppity kids think they have a "job description" the allows them to not do things.

Your job is what the manager says it is, or you find a new one.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 days ago

This guy either believes his code is god level (and has a huge ego), or just a crappy coder who can't explain what he wrote.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

You forgot the most probable option the documentation they want is dog shit. Internal documents are almost universally garbage that is out of date and doesn't cover the important decisions, it just reiterates what is obvious from reading the code.

[-] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago
[-] P34C0CK@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago
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[-] ALostInquirer@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

When what's written is in a language you can read, what's up with that? Reading is free, so to speak, and it enables laziness by not having to find and ask people stuff

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

I'm not going to defend people that are too lazy to comprehend words on a sign.

What I will say, is that it took me entirely too long to look up when I was at the grocery store. One of my first jobs was at a grocery store and it took me far too long to notice the signs.

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[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

Also people always only answer one question. Don't ask two things at once. This is so infuriating.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago

Yep.

I have a habit of sending out a list of questions, even when I number it, and only get a basic response to 1-2 questions.

[-] alienghic@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago

The consequence of that is if you do read it you effectively have superpowers over the non-readers.

[-] Inucune@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Writing is a passive system for conveying information. It requires active effort by the target. If the target does not want to engage with the information, there is nothing forcing them to unless you add additional systems external to the information.

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