Agreed. I'm a teacher and see it in my classrooms. I often feel that they're not taught how to have healthy community, so they become lil fascists...

I'm a classroom teacher, and I find that you've gotta sometimes have both "fuck them kids" and "for the kids" in different measures. But overall, I feel like they're doing a lot of cool things.

If the greens lose votes it will be because of their own lack of policy including untested bullshit lip-service that no one with a brain is buying. They could always do the work between elections. But instead, they’d rather play spoiler.

Nobody thinks they are entitled to votes. This is about triage during an emergency.

To make it simple, let's assign a number out of 100 - Likelihood that a second trump presidency enthusiastically and loudly helps Israel escalate and "finish" their genocide in Gaza: 98.9

Likelihood that post inauguration, a Harris presidency does something that doesn't go as far as the above, but still does meaningful damage, just more quietly through diplomacy and weapons shipments: 32

Now it isn't great that the Harris number isn't zero, even negative, but the reasoning for her campaigns current position is likely a combination of election politics plus the vestiges of Biden's outdated and misguided position on blind support for an Israel that's in his mind and not in front of him.

So first up in a triage... You get Harris in because less likelihood for absolute annihilation. I'd then wager a likely softening at worst to full end of support at best once Biden and election are out of the active picture. Most importantly, we eject Harris because a Harris presidency will preserve your right to protest Harris. A second trump presidency likely leads to the end of American democracy and the freedoms Americans take for granted.

After a Harris admin victory she needs to be sworn in the following January, but on day one, I fully support that we FILL the streets across the country, a la Vietnam era protests. We block freeways and interrupt commerce until a Harris administration ends all US support of Israel's genocide. We will have that right and that chance with Harris, you'll get shot in the fucking eye and tackled into an unmarked minivan if you try that in a second trump administration.

Realize the weight of this decision, and listen to Stein's own campaign telling you they are doing to get trump elected. Time to get WIDE awake and ADULT on the reality here.

Yet as someone who lives in a more diverse democracy (although it has been getting dangerously more polarized in the recent decades), I’m always baffled by this presumption that a candidate deserves someone’s vote by default.

If you live in a democracy where the spoiler effect isn't an issue, then just be happy, whistle, and move on.

If you live in a democracy with first past the poll elections with an electoral college, then you should understand how the system works and vote accordingly.

The spoiler effect is where you vote for someone (Jill Stein in this case) who you think better aligns with your particular set of policy goals, but since they have no chance of actually winning you help the candidate most opposed to your policy goals (Trump in this case) by subtracting votes from the less aligned candidate (Harris in this case) that actually does stand a chance of winning.

It's an ironic outcome of voting in our system. By voting for the person most aligned with your preferences you actually help the person least aligned with your preferences.

Trump is worse on genocide and climate and will be assisted greatly by idiots voting for Jill Stein in swing states.

They've done research and provided these assholes aren't on the ballot, people usually choose a ballot-present major party option instead.

Their logic is that Kamala is actively contributing to a genocide, whereas Trump is not.

This is literally the most braindead political take I've ever heard, and that's saying a lot

Voting is a strategic choice, not an endorsement. You should vote for the candidate who you would rather have in office.

Their logic is that Kamala is actively contributing to a genocide, whereas Trump is not.

Even though he literally is, has put the Israeli Embassy in Jerusalem, and has advocated for the deployment of nukes in Gaza...

I mean they're naming an illegal settlement after trump and Netanyahu is explicitly advocating for trump. What's crazy is polls show Kamala would get like a 6 point poll boost by breaking with biden on this and saying something a little more forceful about a peace deal, such as a deadline where arms deals are halted. It would almost singlehandedly secure michigan.

No.

I haven’t held my nose for a democrat for going on fourteen years and I’m not going to start now.

I’m politically active far beyond voting and have spoken face to face with several representatives. They don’t care or listen.

No amount of voting reform will fix the fundamentally unjust American political system.

I have been doing the work and will continue to do so. Voting for PSL in this election is part of that work.

If you’re reading this, don’t fall for the “oh if only we had star or ranked choice” fiddlefarting around the edges garbage. We live in under a fundamentally unjust political system and especially when both major parties are advocating in support of genocide there is no reasonable argument for performing the calculus required to declare one the lesser evil.

Walk away from omelas.