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Bumbling US cops who raided a medical diagnostics center thinking it was a cannabis farm got a gun stuck to the powerful magnets of an MRI machine, a California lawsuit has alleged.

The owners of the facility are claiming damages against the Los Angeles Police Department for an operation their lawyers describe as "nothing short of a disorganized circus."

Their lawsuit details how a SWAT team swarmed Noho Diagnostic Center after the squad's leader persuaded a magistrate to issue a search warrant.

Officer Kenneth Franco drew on his "twelve hours of narcotics training" and discovered the facility was using more electricity than nearby stores, the lawsuit said.

"Officer Franco, therefore, concluded (the facility) was cultivating cannabis, disregarding the fact that it is a diagnostic facility utilizing an MRI machine, X-ray machine and other heavy medical equipment -- unlike the surrounding businesses selling flowers, chocolates and children's merchandise," the suit said.

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[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 363 points 7 months ago

It gets worse:

Instead of seeking expert advice on how to retrieve the weapon, one officer decided to activate the emergency shutdown button.

"This action caused the MRI's magnet to rapidly lose superconductivity, leading to the evaporation of approximately 2,000 liters of helium gas and resulting in extensive damage to the MRI machine," the suit said.

The officer then retrieved his gun, but left a magazine full of bullets on the floor of the MRI office, the suit says.

[-] Stamau123@lemmy.world 212 points 7 months ago

When you're never, ever, punished, eh who gives a fuck

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 107 points 7 months ago

Exactly, the city is going to be on the hook for this, at worst he'll get a talking to by the chief.

[-] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 71 points 7 months ago

I hope there are security tapes.

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[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

TBF, If I saw a big red button labeled stop, I would have pressed it in that scenario, most emergency stops don’t destroy the entire system.

[-] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 111 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You would have pressed it to retrieve a personal item? Seriously? Like if you're visiting a factory and your phone fell on the assembly floor you would run to the first red button you could find and press it without asking anyone? If so, please never get on an airplane.

[-] parody@lemmings.world 27 points 7 months ago

I’m wondering the timeframe. Did the gun SWOOSH out of his hand and then he slammed the button right in front of him worried the gun was going to explode or something?

What’s unforgivable is cops in LOS ANGELES even using one penny of taxpayer dollars to even think about cannabis. I guess they’re protecting state coffers - illegal buds = no tax revenue.

I’d want them to respond to complaints about growers near schools or something… and try to be proactive I suppose if a residential neighborhood reeks…

But reviewing all business power consumption and going on fishing expeditions WTF?! In LA?!?

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[-] Lepsea@sh.itjust.works 43 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

If it was me, i would ask the people there how to retrieve my stuff.... I might get into trouble but hey in this scenario im a police who lose their gun to MRI machine so I'll look stupid either way

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

The people there were probably handcuffed on the floor and not in a mood to help.

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[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 32 points 7 months ago

The ones I'm familiar with don't say stop on them and they have a plastic guard over them to make you be really sure you want to hit it. It also causes damage to our tools (giant electron microscopes) because it has to make itself safe instantly, which means neutralized a lot of electricity, various gasses, and mechanical parts in an instant.

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 19 points 7 months ago

But it's also not unusual that E-Stops can cause severe damage to a machine when used. After all, such switches are meant to instantaneously bring everything to a screeching halt for safety reasons without worrying about the machine.

And in this case, the E-Stop is meant to prevent the MRI from exploding and sending pieces of shrapnel flying everywhere. MRI machines can be quite dangerous in operation.

[-] piecat@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago

MRI machines don't explode and send shrapnel everywhere lmao.

The quench button is used if a person is pinned by a ferrous object, or if there's a large fire in the room and firefighters need to get in the room.

The electrical E-stop button is used if the equipment is on fire, or if there's flooding.

[-] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 11 points 7 months ago

MRI machines do explode and send shrapnel everywhere. Emergency stopping them causes the helium that's trapped in the part that rotates the magnets to become a gas, then expand as the magnets superheat. In some cases, this causes an understandable explosion.

Seriously happened once already this year https://healthimaging.com/topics/medical-imaging/magnetic-resonance-imaging-mri/mri-explosion-leaves-3-injured-including-2-hospital-staffers , the cop is lucky.

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[-] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

California still has a 10 round magazine capacity limit for ordinary private ownership, I believe. (Last I heard the ruling striking it down was stayed).

So, did this cop negligently just leave a super illegal thing (by California legal standards) on the floor for some medical technician to eventually pick up and get legally slapped for?

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago

a magazine full of bullets

I know this is just the reporter's ignorance, but I'm imagining a magazine full of bullets, no cases, powder, or ever primers.

[-] jaek@lemmy.world 68 points 7 months ago
[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 47 points 7 months ago

I don't know about anyone else, but comments like this make me want to use firearms terminology incorrectly on purpose.

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[-] Dave2 22 points 7 months ago

Forgive my ignorance but isn't a bullet made up by those things? Why would they need to mention the components of the bullet for it to make sense?

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 12 points 7 months ago

The word they were looking for is "cartridges".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartridge_(firearms)

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[-] pastabatman@lemmy.world 87 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Radiologist here. There are multiple safety zones (four to be precise) around the machine and extensive screening procedures are required to access the inner zones. The magnet of an MRI is always on and extremely strong. However, you need to be pretty close for it to pull a gun from your hands. Like, less than a few meters. That would be zone 4. He should never have been that close.

The button he pressed is called a quench. It's for life threatening emergencies only. Think "patient trapped between the machine and a metal object." It vents the liquid helium used to keep it superconductive and basically destroys the machine, but the magnetic field dissipates in minutes. There is a way to wind the machine down without destroying it in situations that aren't life threatening or for servicing, but it takes hours for the magnetic field to dissipate and even longer to bring it back.

[-] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 12 points 7 months ago

Thanks, Doc! Very useful context.

[-] CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago

While I knew these machines are really dangerous to bring metals to anywhere near it; it's quite interesting to know that there is a fail safe for these cases.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 20 points 7 months ago

That's not what a fail-safe is. A fail-safe is just what it says: the device fails into a safe configuration. In this case, someone has to press a button to quench the magnet, which is not really a failure mode of the machine.

A typical fail-safe is something like a solenoid valve. The valve has a default position when no power is given to the solenoid, and you should design your machine so that the default position is safe (whether that be open or closed). The most likely failure mode is a power loss, so the configuration is said to be fail-safe.

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[-] mlg@lemmy.world 52 points 7 months ago

If I ever saw a building using more power, my automatic assumption would be a big machine is inside.

If it were ridiculously high, then my next guess would be a crypto mining farm.

Ain't no way modern LED lamps for growing plants gonna be drawing that much power.

Not to mention any of these fools could have just as easily sent someone inside to check. Or if they really wanted to play coppers so bad, book a fake appointment or even just pretend to be a news agency to ask for a tour.

[-] Revan343@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 months ago

Depends on the scale; modern LEDs just means you can make the farm bigger for the same level of power consumption. There's also dehumidifiers, which suck a decent amount of power because they're basically AC units.

Still, I think crypto farm would be my first guess if there's no obvious other reason for the power usage (which in this case there is, it's a fucking medical imaging place)

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Even worse - they knew full-well that it was a medical office by the point this happened. He was just poking around the expensive shit when he lost his gun.

And then he burned probably millions of dollars when he pushed the purge button.

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[-] renrenPDX@lemmy.world 36 points 7 months ago

The summary just says gun, so I assumed hand gun. it was a rifle.

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[-] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

Maybe this could have been avoided if he only had 13 hours of training... 😥

But for real, I hope they pull the money from the pension of everyone involved, and then fire everyone involved for being literally to fucking stupid. So many people had an opportunity to do anything, to use a brain cell, but not a single one did.

[-] FlexxxingOnThePoors@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Nope. The tax payers will pickup the tab.

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[-] filtoid@lemmy.ml 23 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

At the end of the article, which is already a litany of clownish buffoonery, it states that after destroying (effectively) the MRI machine in order to retrieve the rifle, he failed to retrieve a loaded magazine. So it was just left on the floor as they left.

Edit: autocorrect had changed it to clownfish

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[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 22 points 7 months ago

I feel like all public servants (including cops) ought to have public liability insurance, where money would end up coming from in these situations, which then the employer (police department, other department) needs to pay, the employee is aware of, and is part of their renumeration (i.e. the more their premiums cost, the less they're making), making idiots more of a financial liability to themselves.

Quite quickly you're going to have people acting as responsibly as possible if you're insurance premiums then go up when you act like a moron.

Obviously this would require protections so that people don't end up being screwed over by insurance premiums, but still, this seems to be an issue in public service all over the world, no consequences because the tax payer just ends up footing the settlement, and the public servant goes on their merry way.

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[-] Soup@lemmy.cafe 17 points 7 months ago

Didn’t I read somewhere once that to be a cop, you can’t have an IQ over a certain threshold? I’m not sure if that was an urban legend or not, but this…..

This certainly lends to its credibility.

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[-] Wilzax@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Could I theoretically make my home immune to guns by surrounding it with kevlar-coated MRIs

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[-] MediaSensationalism@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago

What the fuck? Anyone mining crypto or running servers at home better watch out before their energy company tips off their local gang and gets them raided.

Go solar.

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