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[-] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 69 points 7 months ago

Should have spent that money on their shitbird electrical grid.

Greg Abbott is a little piss baby.

[-] ickplant@lemmy.world 51 points 7 months ago

Yeah, they love sending them to Denver in the middle of the night during cold winters. They’ve been asked to drop them off during the day, but that wouldn’t be cruel, you know. We welcome our guests, and I will continue to knit and donate scarves for them. Fuck Texas.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 49 points 7 months ago

Thats $1841.67 per Migrant.

Not counting legal fees incurred by retaliation from the migrants.

[-] subignition@fedia.io 22 points 7 months ago

so an empathetic government could have actually just handed them all relief checks a la COVID

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 26 points 7 months ago

Or ironically just let them be so they don't cost taxpayers money, something Repugnantcans claim to care about.

[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 13 points 7 months ago

I prefer repuglicunts, but yours works too.

[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 3 points 7 months ago

If you're going to quote, might as well make it worse:

"By comparison, a bus ticket to New York costs about $215, while a flight costs about $350," he highlighted. "It would have WAY cheaper to just give migrants money for tickets. Abbott's effort not only made it a political stunt, it lined a contractor's pocket."

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 36 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

So, its funny. I remember another statewide leader taking a historic bus trip with a group of immigrants.

Bernie Sanders Heads to Canada for Affordable Insulin: The senator took people with diabetes on a bus trip across the border to dramatize high prices in the U.S. that he attributes to corporate greed.

Pharmacies just on the other side of the US/Mexico border are selling the exact same prescription drugs as those available in Texas pharmacies at drastically reduced prices, entirely thanks to the cartelized nature of domestic pharmaceutical prices. While it is not illegal to buy these drugs for personal use and transport them across the border, it is illegal to buy them and bring them across the border for sale.

When you think about what a guy like Greg Abbott is doing, when he rounds up a bunch of "illegal immigrants" and buses them around the country, its worth considering what does and does not constitute as crime.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 22 points 7 months ago

at drastically reduced prices

They're not reduced prices. They're normal prices. The cost for insulin in the US is bloated and excessive beyond all comprehension. Framing it as a reduced or discount price in Mexico feeds into the idea that the US prices are somehow reasonable or normal. They are not.

[-] nomous@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Just a fun reminder that Cuba has a lung cancer vaccine that costs like $1 per shot.

I feel like healthcare costs could be a real catalyst for left-policies in the U.S but the Healthcare Industry is going to fight it every step of the way.

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Is the WHO like a medical UN or ICC? Like third party org with some neutrality/impartiality that could "absorb" and evaluate this drug, solely from a medical and not political lens? Do we have that type of org in the world for pure scientific breakthrough that is trapped in otherwise difficult countries or between political feuds?

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 35 points 7 months ago

That's a MUCH better use of My Taxpayer Dollars then Feeding STARVING AMERICAN CHILDREN!

[-] lemmy_user_838586@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[-] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago

And Republican Texans will gobble it up and see no real problem with it, because it hurts the people they dont like. He could bankrupt the state and Republicans would be okay with it if it was in the name of hurting people they don't like

His citizens freeze to death during the winter and overheat during the summer, but whatever lets bus people 2000 miles away as a stunt. Or you could build apt buildings to house them in...this guy is the worst

[-] makyo@lemmy.world 29 points 7 months ago

Fucking monster.

Though there is some schadenfreude to be had that he managed to actually get the attention he wanted from this only for his colleages in congress to spike the biggest gift of an immigration bill they could have ever hoped for at the behest of their orange toddler-in-chief.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

Think of how many gun sanctuaries they could have built with that money.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

they could've built more than 2 Cop Cities

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 15 points 7 months ago

Human trafficking*

It's not "migrant bussing" it's fuckin blatant human trafficking.

Call it what it is and hold this piece of shit accountable.

[-] whostosay@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

This shit is enraging

[-] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Surely we gotta admit it's a good plan politically and fair logisticly? Why wouldn't non-boarder states take a fair share of immigrants?

Edit - plenty of downvotes but no answer to the question, why wouldn't they?

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 23 points 7 months ago

The problem is many times they would not tell the immigrants nor the destination city that they were doing it... making life even harder on these human beings for no other reason than to score political points. Should have worked with all cities from the beginning to do what is best for them. They are treated as sub human by Republicans.

[-] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Yes they should but that's largely down to Democrats, if they wanted to have a dialog and offer to pay to have their busses collect them then I doubt the republican senators could refuse from a political standpoint

Where are the plans to make a fair ayatem? Where are the calls to organize peoper transport? All I see is democrats calling it immoral and saying they should stop.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

The Republicans won't tell anyone before they start bussing. They do not want humaine treatment as that won't assuage their hatred of immigrants. They want the immigrants to suffer and dems to be pissed off. They do not want things done properly and efficiently.

[-] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

So if they did organize good transportation and alerted the cities you would support the move?

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Of course. It should have been done for decades. Mostly adult working age people looking for work when most countries are struggling for labor. The best investment the united state could make is in is own citizens and new citizens imho. Educate and invest in them asap.

[-] ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.net 16 points 7 months ago

It's about delivery. What they're doing is lying to people, and then dumping them randomly in downtowns or in places unprepared to provide services. Not to mention, the cost of this political theater is significantly more than just... You know, helping them directly.

If this was done with actual humanitarian goals and compassion, states can coordinate and actually help people.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 months ago

That's always the case. Like how it's more expensive to police homelessness than home them.

[-] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

Help them how? You think some Texas town can fix an immigrants life and process them for less than $1800 per head?

The sanctuary cities have resources and infrastructure which texas biarder towns do not, splitting the large numbers of immigrants between them makes sense if those people are going to be living in the community until they're processed. The prior method of keeping them in cages fed on gruel and afforded no humanity is rightfully ruled out so what other option is there?

I agree that it should be better organized, maybe the receiving states should have an open and balanced dialog where they agree to pay for and organize transport themselves to ensure the people are treated with dignity and everything is organized for their arrival.

[-] oyo@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago

So you think $1800 per migrant for a bus ride is an efficient and fair use of taxpayer dollars? You think dumping them in six specific Democrat-led cities is a fair distribution? You think migrants looking for a better life are a burden to be shared and not an economic and cultural benefit?

[-] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 months ago

Six cities that declared themselves sanctuary cities? Surely those are the best places, they actively advertise migrants are welcome.

And you say dumping them but then say they're an economic and cultural benefit, surely if you believe that you think its great thes six democrat cities benefit?

As for the cost, maybe those cities could send their own busses to collect them instead? Would be a strong move politically plus they could be better prepared for their arrival. But yes that's not a huge amount of money for the logistics of moving people, cheaper than housing them all and paying all the other costs in the boarder towns they come from, cities have far more resources and better infrastructure. Though of course it wouldn't be popular for the local politician because as we've seen the sanctuary cities get upset when faced with the reality of large numbers of immigrants.

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 7 months ago

they actively advertise migrants are welcome.

They actually don’t. Denver tells them they don’t have the resources to help them and pays to have them bussed elsewhere (of their choice, instead of tricking them and lying to them like Texass does.)

[-] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Well yeah they declared themselves a sanctuary city for political points, they didn't want to deal with reality.

[-] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 months ago

Is 2000$ per person for a bus ride a good deal in the first place? Might want to check who they paid for the services.

[-] VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

It's also including the cost of admin and additional services, but yes immigrants cost the nation a lot of money - you think this is expensive wait until you see how much it costs to house them and all that stuff...

This is why boarder states are doing it, it is cheaper for them to spend one time 2000 than all the other costs that would be incurred

[-] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Oh I don't mind paying taxes to support immigrants. We all needed it at some time.

Besides can you list those administrative costs? They didnt get much for their two grand either way. Its throwing away money. Could have spent the money helping people instead of treating them like cattle.

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