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[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 123 points 1 year ago

I literally had avocado toast today. You know what made me start? I did the math, and avocado toast costs about as much as a bowl of cereal. They've been gradually hiking the price of all the essential items like cereal and milk, but the luxury goods haven't gone up as much. There's no such thing as "cutting corners and saving up" anymore.

[-] RogueBanana@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 year ago

What a rich guy mindset, have you tried skipping meals and save up for rent? Tip your landlords.

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Costs and nutrition estimates

  • milk - $3-3.50/gallon
  • avocado - $1-1.50/ea
  • cereal - $0.10-0.20/oz @ Costco - so I guess $0.35-0.70/100g?
  • bread - $2.50/loaf, 22 slices per loaf

The internet tells me that 125ml milk to 30g cereal is the proper ratio. In freedom units, that's ~30 servings per gallon or $0.10 of milk per bowl, and 30g is a little over an ounce, so $0.10-0.20 cereal per serving, leading to about $0.20-0.30 per serving. For avocado toast, a slice is about $0.11-0.12, so avocado toast is about $0.61-0.87.

Looking at nutrition (taken from MyFitnessPal and Walmart websites):

  • 125ml whole milk - 81 calories, 5g fat, 5g protein
  • 30g honey nut cheerios - 113 calories, 2g fat, 3g protein, 2g fiber
  • 1 slice whole wheat bread - 60 calories, 1g fat, 3g protein, 1g fiber
  • 1/2 avocado - 117 calories, 11g fat, 1g protein, 5g fiber

In total for my area, for an average serving:

  • cereal - 194 calories; 7g fat, 8g protein, 2g fiber
  • avocado toast - 177 calories, 12g fat, 4g protein, 6g fiber

Normalizing for cost per calorie in my area, I get:

  • cereal (whole milk, honey nut cheerios) - $0.10-0.15/100 calories
  • avocado toast (whole wheat bread, medium sized avocado) - $0.34-0.49/100 calories

In other words, avocado toast is something like 2-5x more expensive than cereal, depending on where in that range your meal falls. If you're buying regularly priced cereal (more like $0.20-0.25) and if milk is more expensive in your area, then it's a lot more competitive, but still cheaper than avocado toast (something like half the price).

That said, neither is a particularly expensive meal, and you're not poor because you're eating avocado toast. However, if everything you do is 2-5x more expensive than alternatives, then we have an issue.

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[-] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Avocados are $3 each here and half the time they're bad. Must be nice living somewhere with affordable avocados.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

Do you use an entire avocado for your toast?

Where I live it's $5 a gallon for milk (let's assume 1/10 gallon for breakfast cereal so $0.50 per bowl)

Then it's like $1.00 /100g of cereal, so you're probably looking at $1.50 for a bowl of cheerios.

Where I live I can get avocados for $1.20 each and a loaf of bread for $4.50 (14 slices?) so if I use half an avocado for my slice of toast that's less than $1.

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[-] zeekaran@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

The bit about avocado toast is not making one for yourself at home for $2. It's about going out to eat for every meal and ordering an overpriced item at a hipster brunch bar in a liberal city. It has nothing to do with the fact that a piece of bread and an avocado are fairly cheap on their own.

Not defending the out of touch piece of shit that said it, just trying to give context.

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[-] blazeknave@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I noticed healthier food getting cheaper than manufactured "food" products years ago. Everyone talks about McDonald's in 2024, but nobody remembers the discomfort around a $6 box of Cinnamon Toast Crunch in 2014.

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[-] Gork@lemm.ee 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We need the Rent Is Too Damn High guy to be in high political office to get this shit under control.

[-] Synthuir@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Eh, McMillan is a republican who endorsed Trump. We don’t need him.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

We want the legend, rather than the man, it would seem

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Ah, but Real Income is up 0.6% over the last fiscal cycle, so why are you complaining?

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[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago
[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 14 points 1 year ago

Wait fucking wait wait fucking wait... That piece of shit owns real page?? I'm like 99.999% I had be reading about him giving gifts to supreme fuckbag Thomas but I don't think realpage was ever mentioned...

Ffs...

Yarp, been fucking every working class person in America for years. Yayyyy

[-] cmbabul@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

They need to be consumed

[-] Greyghoster@aussie.zone 27 points 1 year ago

And when Bill Shorten proposed to change the tax system to slow down speculative capital gains that are driving house prices, the people voted for Robodebt Scotty Morrison.

[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My rent has gone up 3.4x in the last 14 years. 2010 I was paying roughly $800/mo for a three bedroom house, now I'm paying roughly $2700 for a smaller 3 bedroom apartment.

[-] P1nkman@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Say it with me: Line. Must. Go. Up! - millionaires who don't give a fuck.

When do we eat ^the rich^?

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[-] Creddit@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Have you seen the price of a decent piece of avocado toast though?

1990: "We don't do that, do that yourself at home. GTFO"

2024: Starts at $11.95 just for avocado, addons are extra

[-] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

I can get 4 avocados for $5, a loaf of good sourdough for $5, and a dozen aggs for $8. $18/week ($3/day) and I can eat a healthy breakfast of avocado toast with 2 eggs every day.

That $72/month is what's breaking the bank, not my $2500/month rent.

[-] doingthestuff@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Avocados are $3 each here and man is it a gamble.

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[-] MrNobody@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

First moved out in the early 00s, rent was anywhere 75-150/w depending. Friends had 2 room units in complex for 95/w. Not even 2 or 3 years later rents were at 200-250/w. Now those same units wont be under 400.

I know airbnb and such arent the sole reason, but when they can rent out their house where nightly prices 350+ where rents are at least 400/w they can rent the place for not even 2 months a year and get the same as if they were renting it out the traditional way. So, naturually there are less longer term rentals available, pushing prices up. We have whole towns which are tourist areas where people cant get a house to live in because of airbnb shit. I'll liikely never own my own home because im paying at least 65% of my income on rent, how the fuck can i save. Fuel, food, energy. Everything going up except wages.

[-] Dasus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

The answer is simple, but not easy. We need to get rid of the greedy capitalist fuckers who are ruining it for the whole world. By ANY means necessary.

[-] Fox@pawb.social 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Median income for a single worker in the USA in 2024 is so far $59,228 according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. In large cities it's significantly higher. Rent and property values are definitely out control though. There wasn't nearly enough housing built after '08. I feel even worse for our neighbors to the north.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Where I live, rent has almost quadrupled since 2010 while wages for many jobs have stayed pretty much the same.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 10 points 1 year ago

Yeah 10 years ago a qualified tradesmen in my industry was paid average 45 an hour, now that same level of experience is about 48 an hour.

In that time the cheap bread went from 50 cents to 3 dollars.

I told my boss I would need a raise years ago when bread went to 85 cents he laughed.

I struggled like fuck as an apprentice then thought I was doing well, now days I couldn't imagine being an apprentice living on your own etc.

[-] Milksteaks@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago

A union job or working in a coop is really the way to go even if you struggle along the way. Also I'd kill for 3$ a loaf cheap bread. I live in bumfucksville WI and a cheap loaf is at least 5$ a loaf while the average income is around 40k a year in my county

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[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Even being homeless got more expensive.

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[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 8 points 1 year ago

I mean... yeah? Kinda late to the party though - this has been true for a minute now...

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[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then you have these financially obese oligarchs skirting their social responsibilities to fund the system however they legally can. Who's the freeloader now?

[-] Emmie@lemmings.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My rent has doubled since the last time we met

[-] abcdqfr@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Been living with my parents for almost two years again. Thought about renovating a connex as a living space for breakfast just yesterday. Might snack on my last marbles tonight.

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