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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by OpenStars@discuss.online to c/discuss@discuss.online

The advertisement in question

Support Lemmy development

An open source project the size of Lemmy needs constant work to manage the project, implement new features and fix bugs. Dessalines and Nutomic work full-time on these tasks and more. As there is no advertising or tracking, all of our work is funded through donations. Even so there is barely enough time in the day, and no time for a second job. The only available option are user donations. To keep it viable donations need to reach a minimum of 5000€ per month, resulting in a modest salary of 2500€ per developer. If that goal is reached we can stop worrying about money, and fully focus on improving the software for the benefit of all users and instances. We especially rely on recurring donations to secure the long-term development and make Lemmy the best it can be.

If you want more information before donating, consider the comparison with Reddit. It began as startup funded by rich investors. The site is managed by corporate executives who over time have become more and more disconnected from normal users. Their main goal is to make investors happy and to make a profit. This leads to user-hostile decisions like firing the employee responsible for AMAs, blocking third-party apps and more. As Reddit is a single website under a single authority, it means all users need to follow the same rules, including ridiculous ones like censoring the name "Luigi".

Lemmy represents a new type of social media which is the complete opposite of Reddit. It is split across many different websites, each with its own rules, and managed by normal people who actually care about the users. There is no company and no profit motive. Much of the work is carried out by volunteer admins, mods and posters, who contribute out of enthusiasm and not for money. For users this is great as there is no advertising nor tracking, and no chance of takeover by a billionaire. Additionally there are no builtin political or ideological restrictions. You can use the software for any purpose you like, add your own restrictions or scrutinize its inner workings. Lemmy truly belongs to everyone.

Nutomic and Dessalines, Lemmy Developers

There are reasons for this, but I am focusing here on the impact that it has upon the recipients.

Zero mention of PieFed, Mbin, Sublinks, or for that matter, the operating costs of Discuss.Online. This ad is not promoting the "Fediverse/Threadiverse", but instead funding the political messaging and curation of content on the Lemmy.ml instance, with some portion also going to development of additional software features. We are not told how much, but seeing the rather large number of entries in the modlog on that instance those curation and posting activities done by those asking for funding definitely do not take zero time. Note that the developers have refused to provide a means to fund only the software without also funding the lemmy.ml instance.

I have used PieFed for a year and never once seen anything remotely like this. I used to use Kbin before it forked into Mbin and again never saw anything remotely similar. The operating costs of DO are real and valid - and if the message had been for that purpose then I would have been fine with it. There are many many ways to fund development of the Threadiverse, and most of them do not require platforming messages that routinely call for the literal murder of everyone living in a Western civilization - a topic that has been discussed in great depth pretty much everywhere across the Threadiverse so let's avoid going deeper into it here and instead I will just point anyone interested to !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works and leave it at that.

I did not appreciate seeing this 3-page advertisement (given the font size used, I had to scroll down almost exactly 3 pages worth to get to any other content). New users fleeing corporate enshittified social media will not appreciate it either. Thank you for letting me vent. There are many possibilities for a solution - including modifications to the Lemmy sourcecode as it runs on DO machines to remove this "feature" (while leaving other more opt-in calls for donations in place), and I am aware that I can click the prominent X button to make it go away (although nowadays the advertisement comes back when I revisit the page? it did not used to behave like that, but now it does for some reason, at least for me?) - but chiefly here I was focused on the poor look that it gives us. This is yet one more reason why I am being driven away from using Lemmy, as it enshittifies for the sake of its own profit, even if to a vastly reduced degree compared to corporate social media, and even if those profits are reinvested into the extremely dubious "benefit" of running by far the most controversial and contested instance across the Threadiverse.

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I am not aiming to convince - much less convert - anyone to anything (this video looks to me like pseudo-Buddhist philosophy), but I enjoyed this piece to mull over and thought I'd share in case you might too:-).

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Context: I made a poll on PieFed about the new post flairs (so if you are one of the few hundred people who have a PieFed account, follow that link and answer there). Unfortunately Lemmy has neither polls nor post flairs, so this post is to open up the discussion to the wider Fediverse, or rather the subset of it that encompasses Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed, which is called... what exactly?

Is Threadiverse too traumatic & tainted by association with Meta's (all but entirely defunct) Threads? Is The Verse too cool/poetic/nerdy (but niche) to be understood? I highly advise against Lemmyverse bc mainstream normal people are far less tolerant of tankies than we who are here are willing to put up with. Simply listing the software available sometimes is the best option - like the Interstellar app supports all of Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed, but most support at best 1 or 2 of those - but usually is too long to say and does not roll off the tongue, plus will just keep growing as time goes on. Is Forumverse thus the least bad of the available options, or perhaps you have a better idea? πŸ’‘

Anyway, the start to a listing:

  1. Threadiverse
  2. Forumverse
  3. (The) Verse
  4. Lemmy + Mbin + PieFed
  5. Something else?

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- source for image

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(Not my OC, so thought I'd share, if it works despite the defederation)

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Not my OC, nor even current, but I hope it makes you smile nonetheless

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(not my OC nor my OP, just helping spread the message around:-)

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It's kinda damn cool no matter what! 😎

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cross-posted from: https://piefed.social/post/413830

(the top image is a screenshot of a post that was on Lemmy, but then it was removed.)

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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by OpenStars@discuss.online to c/AskUSA@discuss.online

For me it was only 2 out of at least 3, if I count "hear about" as being more than a casual mention (I wanted the title to be shorter but I actually mean looking up as in reading an article about, to find who / what / why / etc.), and if I ignore the cache of explosives found in Virginia.

For context, the three that I mean were: the driver in New Orleans, the truck explosion in Las Vegas, and the shooting in New York. (Edit: people are saying that the last one is not strictly speaking related to terrorism, at least that we know of. A better title for this post would have been "violent" rather than "terrorist" events.)

Damn, we sure live in "interesting" times! πŸ™„

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cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/6234778

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/23669729

(not my OP, just trying to help add content to the community and increase awareness of other communities as well - i.e. follow the cross-posting trail for even moar fun:-P)

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 101 points 2 years ago

Except they still don't care, and resent you for edumacating them. Whatever you say, they "win". Welcome to the post -information age.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 130 points 2 years ago

Later: why didn't you do the thing I asked?

The secret is: it's always your fault.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 117 points 2 years ago

Roughly one year ago, you say? Gee, I wonder what could possibly have happened roughly one year ago, hrm? Can't really think of anything particularly memorable that happened roughly one year in the past... [them, OP and all the commenters]

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 95 points 2 years ago

Omg I understood every word of that - should I be worried now? :-P

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 92 points 2 years ago

So close! πŸ˜‚

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[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 97 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

~~And yet, still CEO I see...~~

Sorry for misinformation - see comment below.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 97 points 2 years ago

the rhetorical question: β€œAre you better off relative to previous times? Housing leads the list of things where the answer to that question today for many people is: β€˜No, I’m not better off.’”

There, now you've read the article.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 115 points 2 years ago

To increase the number of people who would click on the article to read it.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 92 points 2 years ago

Who would downvote something like this, without leaving a comment to explain why!?

Sometimes I wish I could see that info, in rare circumstances like this.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 175 points 2 years ago

I mean, Trump is also defending genocide too though...

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 93 points 2 years ago

It's like all those "heat records" that supposedly "proves" that climate is "changing".

Every single month they keep getting broken, sheesh!

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It looks like a conspiracy if you ask me - all those "scientists" with their... "facts"! Everyone saying the same thing all the time - it sure sounds like they are pushing an agenda to me! What if I don't want to be educated though - did they ever stop to think about that, hrm!?

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 104 points 2 years ago

So the law would demand it, but the "trust me bro, I got yo back" defense says to ignore what the law actually says?

Okay, I think I will.:-P

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