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Sad, from a nostalgia point of view, but probably a win, environmentally. We have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles, the mylar pouches are pretty much all single use.
We actually don’t have a pipeline to recycle plastic bottles though, right?
Bottle deposit systems are generally effective. In Sweden, 90-95% of the pet plastic in drink bottles makes it back to a factory to be used as raw material for new bottles. We don't really recycle the hdpe lids or polyester labels, though.
Why aren't we just using glass, as we did for decades just fine.
That's not actually a solution when talking single-use either. Remaking the bottles from recycled glass is incredibly energy intensive and not an environmentally friendly process either. Multi-use bottles are much better, but the cleaning required also isn't that simple and also relatively energy intensive (far from remaking the bottles of course).
There's also practical downsides to glass (heavy, breakable), but those are subjective and their relevance highly depends on the use case.
Ideally, we wouldn't buy stuff to drink in any kind of bottle, but just use tap water. possibly just buy some concentrated stuff to then make your actual drink at home. Nothing beats the effectiveness of transporting water through a simple pipe, but that isn't even possible everywhere in the world due to drinking water quality issues...
A lot of glass bottles aren't melted down, but simply washed and reused.
Good job with reading you did there. Your didn't even make it 8 words in and already decided to comment. Maybe give it another go, if you dare, and try getting a little further this time.
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But much better to use aluminium.
Source on this "pipeline"?
Recycling bin > recycling lorry > container > third world country > sea.
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Oh no. I can’t relive the childhood frustration of being unable to access that sweet nectar shielded behind an impenetrable puncture-proof material with no tools to work with but the flimsiest of mini plastic straws.
I don’t know about over there, but here they’ve started selling them with paper straws. Making it even more impossible to puncture that stupid little hole while ruining the straw in the process.
And of course it’s the only thing my daughter wants to drink. I’ve had to resort to using a nail file to open those things.
I hate paper straws. There are many different compostable straws and paper is about the worst.
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Then you push hard enough to punch through, and the straw goes straight out the back too.
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I see a ton of comments here hating on nostalgic people, with no actual nostalgic people in sight yet.
Personally I don't care if a pouched drink exists or not, but if they are no longer producing pouched drinks they should probably retire the brand.
Do you remember what a CapriSun tastes like? It's somewhere between an extremely-artificially flavored "juice" concentrate and a "fruit flavored" drink like Kool-Aid. The whole appeal was the packaging.
This is absolutely reeks of a bullshit "OMG the sky must be falling for you" condescending article from an older generation that thinks younger nostalgia is silly. I wouldn't give this article any more credence than a boomer yelling "Avocado Toast!" at you when you're enjoying a nice brunch. It's just needlessly sensationalist shit stirring.
It's quite literally a bit of orange juice, filled up with water and loaded with sugar.
It also includes flavoring (of which the orange juice is one). They come in more flavors than just orange.
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Plastic bottles in general should be illegal. It's cans, glass bottles, or GTFO when it comes to beverages for me.
FYI cans have a plastic liner to prevent acidic foods from dissolving the aluminium, so there's still some plastic in it (much less then fully plastic bottles tho)
We should really advance to "glass only" for single use containers (unless you have a really good reason to prefer plastic, like if it's a medical product) and invest in the infrastructure to recycle them - a country can get up to a 99% recycle rate for glass if it puts the work in.
Yes glass is potentially less safe but my gut tells me that the risk of more broken glass is offset by the reduced air pollution and associated health risks.
It's more that it's heavier, so you have to transport a lot more weight for the same amount of product.
Secondary to that, glass can't be shaped as compactly as an aluminum can or plastic bottle, so it takes up more room for the same amount of product.
There's no perfect solution, which is why we have a lot of options.
There’s no perfect solution, which is why we have a lot of options.
But in the category of "single use drinking containers", all of the options besides glass carry with them more and worse externalities than what glass production and recycling carries. Which is why "having a lot of options" isn't a positive in this case, it just means that a large part of the market is operating in a way that is more destructive to society than it needs to be.
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Ah, but without plastic bottles how would we generate additional profits from the excess waste of oil production?
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I have always, for the entirety of their existence, hated those dumb pouches. Good riddance as far as I'm concerned.
They made a really loud noise in the lunchroom if you inflated the pouch all the way, folded over the straw to seal it, then stomped on it really hard with your shoe. This was before mentally deranged people started shooting up schools though, so maybe don't try it.
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I very specifically remember the controversy 15-20 years ago when it was found that many of these pouches had mold in them, and you couldn't see it because of the pouch or even taste it. I'm sure the quality control since then has improved, but any time I see a pouch of juice, I think about that mold incident.
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Right? But this only applies to Capri Sun. If it were Hi-C, you’d demand a juice box.
Also, the people who are currently in their childhood absolutely do not care. It’s just us 40+ curmudgeons that must drink Capri Sun from a pouch, Hi-C from a tiny box, and Sunny D straight from that wonky-shaped jug that won’t fit in the fridge door.
I dunno.. Anytime my kids see these pouches at a store, they beg us for them. We've never bought them at home either. I think kids just like the novelty of drinking out of a bag.
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In the United States, Kraft and its former parent company, the tobacco conglomerate Philip Morris Cos. (now Altria), have successfully marketed Capri Sun using strategies developed for selling cigarettes to children.[2] American parents often misidentify Capri Sun as healthy, and it is one of the most favorably rated brands among Generation Z Americans.
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The article doesn't actually say they are phasing out pouches, just that they are introducing bottles.
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They need to go the other way. More drinks in pouches. Cocktails for adults.
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A bottle that's actually a drink vs. a pouch that's barely a mouthful? I'm OK with that...
A 30 Pack of pouches was sold for like 0.05 to 0.20 USD per fluid oz.
They sell large 96 fl oz bottles at roughly 0.30 USD per fluid oz, so you're actually getting less drink with bottles as things stand currently.
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