The result has been recognised by Venezuelan allies China, Russia and Iran.
The three countries most well known for their open and fair democratic processes.
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The result has been recognised by Venezuelan allies China, Russia and Iran.
The three countries most well known for their open and fair democratic processes.
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Insert "Why is it always you three" meme here.
Sussy af
The USA has tried to make coups happen in Venezuela like half a dozen times or more over the decades, I just cannot trust anything America says about the internal politics of Venezuela.
Not that it matters what I think, America will do whatever the fuck it wants.
Sigh. What about virtually every other country out there that is not a dictatorship saying it too?
You're acting like only America says something about it. Only the most scummy countries seem to "believe" maduro.
No, I've just seen this kinda thing happen again and again, specifically with Venezuela. Sadly, the nation is getting used as a political battleground, so of course America and its allies are on one side and their rivals on the other.
Plus, the US has a long dark history of meddling in the politics of South American countries, this is absolutely the kind of thing it does to extert power.
This is not that.
Most of those failed interventions of Latin America mind you come from conservative administrations. Blinken isn't a Neocon.
Maduro is corrupt as fuck and myriad independent nations and watchdogs corroborate the same point.
People should question the USA every time they talk about South American countries. The same as how people question China or Russia when they talk about bordering countries. Super power will do what they can to influence other countries and historical and recent events make it clear that the USA is willing to lie and defend its lies. So people have the right to not believe the USA.
Sure. When it's appropriate. But it isn't appropriate here. There are third party organizations with no love for the US also making statements about this.
We also have overwhelming evidence Blinken has supported multiple coup attempts in Venezuela throughout his career.
Downvote actual facts if you like, you’re only showing your bias.
Care to share that evidence?
Absolutely, but if you were really interested in facts this information is not hard to find once you stop watching cable news…..
I doubt you’ll read any of it but here is a random google search….
Details of a dozen or so coup attempts by us government
https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv2tr51zb
Details of Blinken’s work history in the us government over this same period
Bias report on the jstor.org showing reporting credibility as factual and also detailing any of their bias etc
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/jstore-daily/
If you believe western media and United States governments reporting on issues in Venezuela, you’re critical thinking ability is non existent.
I’m not an expert on Venezuela, but again, western media and the USA government has zero credibility on issues concerning Venezuela.
Absolutely, but if you were really interested in facts this information is not hard to find once you stop watching cable news…… I doubt you’ll read any of it but here is a random google search….
Your snark, arrogance and cynicism are unwarranted and inappropriate.
But I do appreciate your providing some info - I was genuinely curious and didn't quite know where to find this evidence - initial searches did not turn up the kind of "overwhelming evidence" you claimed existed. I'm not for a second disputing the USA's involvement in coup attempts or regime change in general - I think this is quite adequately documented. But your claim was that there is "...overwhelming evidence Blinken has supported multiple coup attempts" but the best you can do is to essentially say he's guilty of this personally because he has worked for the US government.
That's honestly pretty weak.
If you believe every protest is a CIA backed coup attempt then nobody can help you.
Mr Maduro accused the opposition of producing fake evidence to contest the result of the election and said the US was behind what he described as a farce and a coup attempt.
Wouldn't be the first time
Edit: Thank you so much to Kecessa for providing actually credible information - it definitely seems that there’s some election rigging going on.
For everyone who just scolded me instead of just presenting the data, that’s not helpful. When people are asking for data, just either provide that data or don’t. Your opinions hold basically zero weight.
My original comment below:
~~None of this “overwhelming evidence” has been presented to the public. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Opinion polls don’t count for shit. Show me proof of a fixed election and I’ll believe you, but right now this entire thing stinks of the US not getting to control Venezuela and being really fucking mad about it. ~~
I'm sure you've done tons of research into these claims and are certainly not just making a loud uninformed take
I’ve read a few articles. They’re all like, “we have sooooo much evidence that the election is rigged! Just so much!! But it goes to another school, so just trust me bro.”
I’m very happy to be proven wrong, if you have anything compelling to share, please do.
You can download the voter sheets that the opposition is presenting and investigate it yourself. Thankfully the AP already has (I trust them enough for this) and it indicates the government of Venezuela is lying
Maduro and buddies are already saying the post election protests were a CIA coup attempt. They knew this was coming and they tried to get out ahead of it.
And plenty of useful idiots here are parroting him, because "US Bad"
The US is bad. Especially when it comes to South America. And especially with socialist countries. The US always sanctions socialism to then claim it doesn't work. Otherwise americans might start to doubt their ultra capitalism.
I think the venezuelan government is wrong this time, and the election was rigged, bUT: it coming from the US doesn't mean shit.
It is sad that on any topic concerning South America, I am suspicious of anything that the US says.
Overwhelming evidence
I wonder why he didn't present any of it then. Looks pretty Donald Trump-like to me
Evidence was literally uploaded by the opposition, and has been analyzed by multiple news organizations already who agree with their conclusions. Not to mention the exit polls and other available public evidence.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/masked-assailants-ransack-venezuela-opposition-134849213.html?guccounter=1
Here's another organization that independently gathered many of the polling receipts with similar results:
The opposition leader is in hiding (who was barred by Maduro's government for running, among many other tactics with government powers Maduro used to try to tilt the vote in his favor). Maduro has rounded up over 1000 members of the opposition already to try and prevent this data from being gathered and take more political prisoners. The Carter Center, who Maduro government themselves invited as a monitor, said that:
“Venezuela’s electoral process did not meet international standards of electoral integrity at any of its stages and violated numerous provisions of its own national laws.”
The only one fighting transparency and trying to hide results here is Maduro. These tallies were all stored on qr codes. Maduro could have released them at anytime and chose not to. Could have instantly been released the night of the election, as they were coming in if he wanted. Can't believe people on here are still falling for this dictator's bald faced lies.
Because the official evidence is held by the incumbent government. The evidence we do have access to, from extensive exit polls by neutral auditors to the mandated voting station slips (small pieces of paper that each voter is issued giving them the electronic count so far at that station) both track a 60 - 70% lead for the opposition.
In response, instead of releasing the official report, the incumbent government has brutally crushed several protests (even killing protestors), arrested the opposition, and claimed victory. Not exactly the pattern of behavior of an innocent victor.
What about the election in Pakistan? That was clearly rigged yet the US never made a it a problem.
If Maduro had acted like a good suckup dictator, all of this would be declared "internal matter of Venzuela" and Blinken would have moved on lol.
But no, he had to refuse the US's foreign demands like he has sovereignty or something. Now we actually have to coup him for real this time, and make it look like we upgraded the democracy while doing it.
spoiler
But seriously rip Imran Khan. Pakistan had one big chance to save itself and it took the army like 5 seconds and a tiny IMF loan from the USA to burn it all down.
US involvement makes this suspicious especially when it's against a socialist candidate.
Please make your point explicit. Ronald Reagan and other right-wingers opposed the Soviet Union. Does that mean the Soviet Union should have remained intact and counter-revolutionaries in Hungary, Czechoslovakia, and Poland kept suppressed?
Maybe America should stop genociding Palestinians before trying to act like some kind of moral authority on other countries.
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