And a staple of a New York Classic, the Breakfast Sandwich! New Yorkers might pick fights over how other cities do their pizza and hotdogs, but god help you if you try to take their breakfast egg and bagel.

Thank you, that cleared up the confusion.

The joke is that bagel shops are a Jewish food, so most bagel shops are owned and operated by Jews. And Germany did that whole holocaust thing, where they systematically tried to wipe out the Jews.

It’d be a little bit like if a country tried to wipe out Indian people, then went “Hmm why don’t we have any good Indian restaurants?”

In the US at least, bagels are stereotypically popular among jewish people.

you must boil them first, then bake them.

if you just bake them, all you get is a shitty dinner roll. not a bagel.

Do you realise that you're spelling it 'begal', and everyone else is saying bagel?

It's the water.

I don't hate bagels, but in the end it's just pretty dry funny shaped bread. I assume americans go crazy for bagels because their normal bread is ass. If you have some good alternatives or you can bake yourself, i don't really see the point.

It's all in the texture for me. The denser, somewhat chewy bagel is really nice and holds up to cream cheese a lot better than sandwich bread. They are amazing open face with cream cheese. Some folks like them with butter. It's fine, but I do love cream cheese far more. I've had bagel sandwiches, which can be really good, but I do find them to be really heavy. (Plain or blueberry bagel, with cream cheese and sliced ham is my go-to for a bagel sandwich.)

You can get all sorts of flavors of bagels, like cinnamon, blueberry, and onion. You can get schmear (cream cheese spread) with many different varieties of mixins too, like herbs, fish, and lemon! I think my favorite combo is an onion bagel with garlic herb schmear.

That being said, I do love a good sandwich too.

I'll add to the others that A LOT of places don't make bagels well. If it feels like you're just eating bread then it's not a good bagel. It should be chewy but also somewhat hard on the outside. A good bagel also doesn't need to be toasted because it's fresh.

Here's my opinion of how to try a bagel in its most classic format, me being someone from the northeast but not New York. Everything bagel, cut in half (like a sandwich), toasted, smear each open face with plain cream cheese (can substitute for veggie cream cheese), eat each half separately.

Otherwise it's just a different shape of bread like ciabatta or baguette. Personally I don't love bagels for sandwiches because they tend to not hold up structurally, but bagel is my favorite context for cream cheese.

The way bread is made can make a huge difference in a sandwich. Bagels are made differently than most sandwich breads and offer a different flavor and texture profile.

Like, would you rather have some really good French bread or Wonderbread when you make a sandwich?

Good bagels aren't actually common. You want them from a good place, and you want them fresh. The kind you get that have been baked and sitting out for hours aren't going to be as good. The kind you buy from grocery stores absolutely don't cut it.

Bagel bread is really good. Like a big round soft pretzel.

I would never consider a bagel as a roll. I'm not sure what I would call it except excellent. But it isn't a roll with a hole in the middle. I'm legitimately sorry if that has been your bagel experience.

Tell me you've never had a decent bagel without telling me you've never had a decent bagel. A bagel is not a roll.

I never said either was better, just different.

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