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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by drmoose@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world

Meta sneakily introduced "Platform Integrity Attestation API" which basically calls home to see whether the user has a valid license to play.

This means that to run apps user has to have online connection to perform an integrity test. Whether it's only a test on launch or continues call home like Denuvo-like DRMs is not yet clear. This could also mean that modified headsets could fail to pass this test essentially closing down the device for modifications that could damage "platform integrity". Not all details are clear yet but this doesn't look good.

Currently it's optional and up to app developers to enable it.

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[-] TastyWheat@lemmy.world 151 points 2 years ago

No fucking way I'll consider buying one now.

[-] archchan@lemmy.ml 71 points 2 years ago

My consideration was off the table after Facebook bought Oculus.

[-] doppelgangmember@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Or be like me. Get one then Meta buys the company. Z_z

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[-] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 46 points 2 years ago

I always wanted one, but when they made it a requirement to have and link a Facebook account to use it I completely lost interest.

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[-] SwallowsDick@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

Guess I'll save up for the Valve one

[-] Silviecat44@aussie.zone 7 points 2 years ago

HP reverb g2 is pretty solid

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's discontinued unfortunately, so don't expect much in the way of support. But it is a great VR headset that you can get on the cheap ATM

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[-] NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

It seems (seemed) like a pretty good vr headset....just it's owned by one of the worst companies and I have no interest paying them hundreds for that level of access to my personal information.

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[-] DarkThoughts@kbin.social 84 points 2 years ago

All the shills promised me and other doubters that something like this would never happen. I'm glad I lost all interest in Oculus the moment Facebook bought them.
Hopefully we'll see some solid info on the Deckard this year.

[-] keeb420@kbin.social 12 points 2 years ago

Same. And it's sad because, from what others have said, they are great vr headsets. Hopefully valve nails it with Deckard.

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[-] AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world 83 points 2 years ago

...and there goes my eagerness to buy the Q3. I loathe drm.

[-] straF@lemmy.world 60 points 2 years ago

So glad I avoid Meta products. I doubt they will be satisfied until they can live sell your data and display ads while you use the product.

[-] Steeve@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago

Those are two very different things. Advertising giants don't actually "sell" your data, it's really not in their best interest, they make money by being the only ones with your data.

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[-] Yoz@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago

Who the fuck are buying shit from google and Facebook? No wonder fucking internet is going to shits

[-] forgotaboutlaye@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

Google Pixel phones are the only phones compatible with GrapheneOS, so there's one reason.

[-] Onionizer@geddit.social 12 points 2 years ago

They're also easy to unlock and relock the bootloader on

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[-] alphacyberranger@lemmy.world 36 points 2 years ago

Why are all these companies hell bent on making more e-waste

[-] Saneless@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Or, what the fuck do they think they're protecting against?

[-] WingedThing@lemmy.one 7 points 2 years ago

It's not about protecting anything, it's about acquiring and selling as much of your personal data as they can.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.world 34 points 2 years ago

Aaaaaaaaaand just like that, never buying a Facebook headset. Also because apparently they firmware updated to requiring a Facebook account.

Meh.

I'll go valve index 2.0

[-] scarilog@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

they firmware updated to requiring a Facebook account.

I think this is wrong, at least on the quest 2, this used to be the case, but they got rid of this requirement I think a year or so ago.

If you have a source, pls provide it.

[-] jape@infosec.pub 5 points 2 years ago

Didn't they just change to require meta account instead?

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[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Sounds pretty on-brand for them.

Remember kids: Meta = cancer

Do everything you can to stop meta from metastasizing.

[-] FrankTheHealer@lemmy.world 30 points 2 years ago

Oh cool. Another reason to not buy one.

[-] GustavoM@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

We've reached a point that technology is not improving, but degrading -- who on earth is going to accept this as is and let third parties acquire random information about them, including their credit card? I mean, if a hacker manages to bust (whatever feature that allows this bs to happen) and forward info to them instead of the meta HQ -- they are going to have a heck of a honeypot.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 12 points 2 years ago

I very much doubt even 10% of Quest owners will even bother to complain online about this.

[-] Disk@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

Complain? I would be shocked if 10% of quest users even know it's happening

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[-] harbo@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

Another reason I would never buy a Meta product

[-] JusticeForPorygon@dormi.zone 24 points 2 years ago

Welp as someone who cannot maintain a constant internet connection on my devices this is quite the turnoff

[-] TheCrimsonKellashee@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Yep. Called it. Again.

Glad I got a Vive.

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[-] FourPacketsOfPeanuts@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

I can't imagine what kind of a bad way I'd have to be in mentally to end up buying a Meta product...

[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

This will be removed once thousands of little Billy or grandma's can't get that app to work, just like the Facebook requirement. Their support is a joke.

I had an app stuck in the update queue (still no way to see that queue). The recommendation was to do a factory reset. Not open up queue, restart download, not remove from queue - none of those things you can do! Good thing I had sidequest and was able to open up the quest taskmanger on my computer and do a force quit or I would never have been able to download anything again!

No way they let something that does that on purpose everytime the router goes out. Millions of factory resets? No, millions of returns.

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[-] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 years ago

Oculus was dead to me the moment it was announced Facebook was purchasing them.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I have trigeminal neuralgia, a painful nerve disorder in my face, meaning I can't wear VR headsets. So when I find out that Zuckerberg's "VR is going to change everything" bullshit has yet another issue, I feel smug. Pretty much the only time I can feel smug about trigeminal neuralgia.

[-] Nowyn@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 years ago

I'm so, so, so sorry. My infraorbital nerve runs through my maxillary sinus and I had really fucking bad 3-month sinus infection that caused nerve pain on that isolated nerve (among a lot of other things). I can't imagine how you are dealing with this even though I do have nerve pain elsewhere.

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[-] MasterNerd@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago

Man am I glad I bought an index after my rift s broke

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[-] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

I thought about getting a Quest 2. Glad I didn't.

[-] Holyginz@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I've had my quest 2 for a while now but not used it in a bit. Certainly not making me want to play it or get anything new for it.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

This doesn't affect using it as a PC VR headset though, does it?

Because that's the only reason I was thinking of waiting for a Quest 3 instead of buying a Pico, anyways.

[-] cloaker@kbin.social 9 points 2 years ago

Considering it's for existing and future stuff, things could change later on and it break pc functionality. I'm not sure to actually answer your q though

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[-] porl@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Have one of the original dk1 units in storage gathering dust. I was so excited for it until they pulled Linux support and Facebook buying them out. Never touched it since.

[-] themoonisacheese@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 years ago

This effectively kills beat saber custom maps, which is a large part of quest users. Currently, the custom maps mod already requires hoops to be jumped through but this is possibly way worse.

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[-] beefcat@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

continues call home like Denuvo

I don't think Denuvo does that, I have lots of Denuvo protected games that work just fine offline after I activated them.

But yeah, fuck Facebook.

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