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[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 137 points 5 months ago

“Will cost America”

Haha no. It will not cost working class people a cent. Which is most of America.

[-] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 60 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Well you know capitalism. Privatize the profits, socialize the losses.

When corporate is losing money it's "All of us in America lost 700 million in productivity"

But when profits are higher than ever before it's "Sorry there's no bonus this year, we're giving our CEO a 50 million dollar parachute. We know you worked hard so here's a thank you card and a candy bar"

[-] tinyVoltron@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Wait... You get a candy bar?! Lucky!

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

"Anyone who took off the day of the eclipse is not entitled to a candy bar."

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[-] TOModera@lemmy.world 82 points 5 months ago

Truly sad part? The tourism benefit from it was estimated at 6$ billion... but NBC doesn't want that.

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[-] Phegan@lemmy.world 60 points 5 months ago

If the eclipse lost 700 million dollars, imagine what we can do if we did a general strike. The oligarchy would shit themselves.

[-] goatbeard@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

Imagine if we blot out the sun for good!

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[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 54 points 5 months ago

Nothing was lost. Not a single penny!

People aren't being paid for every moment they remain on task. They're getting paid for works completed! They're getting paid for doing their job. They don't have to be at their desk/station/site every single moment to remain productive!

This idea that people need to be paid less if they do less work is absolute Insanity. People need to be paid a fair wage for completing jobs, whatever that may be.

[-] PrettyLights@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

People aren't being paid for every moment they remain on task. They're getting paid for works completed!

There are lots of jobs that need to be on task on an hourly basis, this ignores a huge class of people and assumes everyone is where you are in life.

Security guards and cashiers are two immediate examples. Cashiers need to be ready to perform the entire time they are working and can't just work random flex hours as customers are relying on them. If customers show up during the stores hours they should expect a cashier to be working. Even if there are no customers in your line or store, there could be some in a minute or two. The "works completed" are transactions completed, but also the act of being available.

Security guards are paid explicitly to be present at specific times, the "works completed" is literally sitting there the entire time.

Lifeguards need to be present even if no one is swimming at the moment.

[-] mechoman444@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Right. Sure. I agree with you. But you're totally missing the point of what I was saying.

If the cashier/life guard/security personal left for a few minutes or maybe longer the company that person works for didn't "loose" money because they weren't at their station.

Being productive 100% isn't possible and anything less than 100% isn't a loss.

Companies aren't paying people for works performed but for works completed. The life guard being there at all constitutes them being at work. Just because they left and watched the eclipse for 10 minutes or went to the bathroom or took a personal call isn't a loss!

Which is why the only thing that matters is what work was completed not how much work they did in the time it took to complete.

We need to change the way business interpret what constitutes paid labor.

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[-] RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Good point!

Like I'm sure money wasn't wasted because Jim was going to be on Facebook anyway and Karen was going to check her emails one more time anyway. Most real work happens in a small window

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 53 points 5 months ago

So, over 300 million people enjoying a once in a lifetime natural event cost "the economy" about as much money as a typical CEO steals in a day?

Sounds like misdirected anger.

[-] wabafee@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

It's like we forgot why we have an economy in the first place. Wasn't it to enjoy our lives in this planet.

[-] Nom@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago

No only for the select few, the rest of us are serfs. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if one of the billionaires started calling themselves Ramesses XXVI or something.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

It's the "avocado toast" people all over again. "Why are you enjoying anything in your life right now when you could be waiting to enjoy things in the last 10-20 years of your life (if you live that long)?"

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[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Way less than 300 million. The entirety of the West Coast had 50% occlusion or less, and as XKCD pointed out last week, that isn't even noticable.

I'm only pointing this out to point out that they are bitching about a fraction of the country, and less than a percent of the so called economy.

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[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 53 points 5 months ago

Now do the math for everyone eating Taco Bell just before their shift

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[-] mercano@lemmy.world 48 points 5 months ago

People get PTO. It’s built into the cost of hiring workers. From the traffic last night, a LOT of them used vacation time, and probably generated tourism revenue as they traveled to see the eclipse.

[-] Seasoned_Greetings@lemm.ee 20 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

My dad definitely used his accrued vacation to post up in a nice hotel in Texas. Lots of people did the same.

But this isn't about that. It's about this ingrained labor culture that permeates our society. If corporate isn't doing good then our media will sound the alarms about how every single American must be suffering and all the average Joe's problems are because those asshole day laborers took the productivity away.

Same song as when the pandemic forced work from home. The media spent years telling us how selfish those people were. Not even because the companies weren't still making comparable money, but because office buildings were losing tenants.

But they'd never frame that as offices becoming out dated in the age of technology. It's obviously the selfish workers who won't think of the poor leeches that need them to rent their office spaces or the poor middle managers who suddenly become obsolete when everything can be done from a living room.

[-] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago

Whoa, we generate that much money every four minutes? That's bonkers. ...remind me again why we need the executives, then?

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[-] lea@feddit.de 33 points 5 months ago

"Journalism" is just rage bait now, they know exactly what they're doing with this headline and it pisses me off ... which is ironic.

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[-] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 31 points 5 months ago

It can't be lost if it doesn't exist

[-] dellish@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago

Remind me again why people from "non-shithole" countries would want to move to the US? The priorities on display here are beyond belief.

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[-] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 25 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Decided to do some math of what I could totally see a corporate media outlet headline saying.

"Weekends are costing America $11,199,999,999,968 a year. Is it time to end weekends?"

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 12 points 5 months ago

You should round that up to $11,200,000,000,000 to make the number look bigger

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[-] SuperSpruce@lemmy.zip 25 points 5 months ago

I read an article headline yesterday claiming that it would generate $6 billion in economic output due to tourism. That would far outweigh the lost productivity.

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

It's the duty of every worker to produce as little value as possible while working.

[-] niktemadur@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago

Predictably idiotic headline. A few hours ago, before coming across this post, I visualized just such a stupid headline and chuckled to myself for thinking of such low-hanging fruit. And here it is.

A meaningless figure, mindlessly arrived at with the same abstract mathematical tools that could and should be also mentioning how much money is lost by keeping so many people poor and with hurdles, by NOT investing in education, on public health, on the environment...
But we never read these assholes talking about this in this manner, now do we?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

There is no fruit so low-hanging that the U.S. media will not pick it. I predicted, quite accurately, that Fox would claim that the eclipse would allow immigrants to cross over the border in the dark.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago
  • $700M in lost productivity

  • $23T GDP

Not even a decimal point on a decimal point and they're still complaining

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 20 points 5 months ago

I think we need to start giving wedgies and noogies to data nerds who generate statistics like this. It's a giod stepping off point to get us to the Butlerian Jihad.

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[-] Dr_Nik@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

I manage a team of 5 people. I told them all not to come in so they could go see the eclipse. I told them not to take vacation and just bill it as normal hours. Three listened to me. One took a half day. One just went and worked...

[-] remotedev@lemmy.ca 18 points 5 months ago

"yess I'm the only one here today, the boss is surely going to love me more than the rest of those lazy fuckers"

[-] AnalogyAddict@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Probably more like "being in crowds cripples me and I hate my home life, so I'd just as soon work."

[-] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 months ago

I work with a guy like that. He hates his wife so much that WFH was causing him genuine issues. He would call us just to be in a meeting. I used to think it was a joke until hearing her constantly nagging him.”you are home! You need to help with the laundry! I want the computer! Let me use it!”

The guy ended up quitting and taking a job that took him back in the office.

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[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Please tell me this isn't real

[-] benjihm@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

Where does that figure even come from?

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

Much like the eclipse, they got them from where the sun don't shine.

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[-] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago

I don’t believe anything NBC says about anything anymore

Fuck NBC

[-] Plague_Doctor@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Lmao what is $700 million to the world's largest GDP. Mfing Norfolk Southern just paid out $600 million to East Palestine residents for gasing their town.

[-] Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 months ago
[-] RatzChatsubo@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago

What about all the eclipse sunglasses sales?

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[-] dumbass@lemy.lol 10 points 5 months ago

Hey, at least they're not blaming us for the loss entirely this time!

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