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[-] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It’s sad really. This post was the final straw for me. I’ll be unsubscribing. I saw the same thing happen dankmemes. Post after post of politically charged, right leaning nonsense. My tinfoil hat says it’s intentional to kill Lemmy, and honestly it’s working.

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 161 points 1 year ago
[-] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, this post when interpreted as ironic, is making fun of socialism and CRT. Regardless it is leveraging oft used conservative boogeymen buzzwords for a joke. It dilutes the original use of the words, and whether or not intended, degrades their meaning. It’s a very common tactic of fascism and hard right actors. It’s exactly what Trump did when assuming the ‘fake news’ moniker and repurposing it to attack media. This entire site has been circling the drain for some time, and the downvotes just prove none of you value actual discussion.

[-] Alto@kbin.social 159 points 1 year ago

The point of the post couldn't have gone any further over your head if it had wings

[-] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If you read what I’m saying, the intent matters not. It’s the use sarcastically or not in a joking way that plays right into right leaning agenda. But please keep attacking me.

[-] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 year ago

The fact that it uses sarcasm and mentions CRT doesn't automatically mean it's right leaning. Left leaning people could find this meme funny.

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[-] Skoobie@lemmy.film 46 points 1 year ago

I mean, intent matters a little at least, right? Like, I prefer to use the term progressive when describing myself and I found this meme to be a firm chuckle and not problematic. It's saying that the logic used by things like CRT is thematically identical to logic used in biblical texts, which many on the right would actually oppose politically and ideologically.

So like, if the intent was to reframe CRT in a biblical light so as to show ethical inconsistency on the part of Republicans, and it works on a logical and a humourous level, what exactly is the problem?

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago

It's saying that the logic used by things like CRT is thematically identical to logic used in biblical texts...

I don't think it's even going that far. I interpreted it as the conservative throwing the term around glibly without any actual understanding of what it means, simply because they don't like what is being said, and a perhaps a very tenuous connection.

[-] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah. It was intentionally made into a boo phrase and thought terminating cliche. Chris Rufo has a lot to answer for, in poisoning the well of discourse in this country. Not that it wasn't already pretty terrible, but an ocean of piss is no excuse to dump barrels of cyanide.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

The only thing playing into the right wing agenda in this post, is you.

[-] BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee 49 points 1 year ago

Comrade, what the fuck are you talking about?

[-] GarrulousBrevity@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

I think you're alienating your allies here. This is clearly intended to be left leaning, and you're lumping OP with Trump and facists.

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[-] Primarily0617@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago

just knowing that a website like The Onion exists musts be a perpetual nightmare for you

[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

What are you on and where can I get some

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[-] Wereduck 23 points 1 year ago

I think the meme is fairly clearly making fun of American conservative/fascist discourse. Like the whole watering down of any semblance of a working definition of CRT when referenced by right wing pundits and moral panic board meeting parents, where right wing people call every call to be somewhat decent human beings "CRT" or "wokism", and then have no actual working meaning for those words except as something that seems left wing and makes them uncomfortable.

[-] Dick_Justice@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

To be honest it sounds like you don't want people to mock conservatives, and that's a tough ask when they make it so easy.

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[-] getynge@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I understand all the component words here and still have absolutely no understanding of how you can make your assertions so confidently this makes no sense.

[-] lucidwielder@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

just prove none of you value actual discussion.

This is a meme sub. Would be like me getting upset at people for posting Linux related questions under the Linux sub vs some tech sub or Windows sub.

There are proper places to have discussions and if you think a meme sub is one of them then you are going to have a bad time. Whether it plays into the hands of conservatives or not is another debate - but generally speaking I do not think making fun of their religion and views in this manner is something they can really weaponize. At some point they are likely to reach a tipping point where more and more people find them insufferable and start tuning them out. People can rarily keep using the same playbook to engage people over and over without them getting tired &/or fed up with it and them eventually.

A good number of us caught on to their grift early on, but en masse, people are slow and dumb. Sadly they need time to catch up to the latest scams and new mediums.

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

New copypasta dropped

[-] Norgur@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Is that reply missing an /s or is the poster missing the point?

[-] Alto@kbin.social 35 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure the guy just missed the point by a country mile

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

A post saying racists are idiots is right-leaning? What? Lol

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[-] leraje 26 points 1 year ago
  1. It's not right leaning
  2. You unsubbing is not going to kill Lemmy
[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago
  1. Or disappoint any of us.
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[-] Moyer1666@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 year ago

Right leaning?? This is quite the opposite, but yeah political either way

[-] kebabslob 12 points 1 year ago

I wish my tinfoil hat could talk

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