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[-] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

If you read what I’m saying, the intent matters not. It’s the use sarcastically or not in a joking way that plays right into right leaning agenda. But please keep attacking me.

[-] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 53 points 1 year ago

The fact that it uses sarcasm and mentions CRT doesn't automatically mean it's right leaning. Left leaning people could find this meme funny.

[-] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Again, it’s their use in a joke that delivers the whole discussion around CRT into the shitter, enabling right wing agenda. They’re not out to win the argument, they’re out to muddy the waters.

[-] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago

So by that logic, we shouldn't make any political jokes anymore? This is getting awfully close to censorship.

[-] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn’t block you from making the joke. That’s censorship. I merely pointed out the problem in doing so and that I’m done with it. Take pepe, see how the right ran with that to the point it represents racism.

[-] TrenchcoatFullofBats@belfry.rip 27 points 1 year ago

I didn’t block you from making the joke. That’s censorship.

No, you don't have the power/ability to censor, so you're doing the only thing you can, which is attempting to stifle speech that you (incorrectly) think is counter to your own beliefs, in true right-wing style.

Congratulations! You've become the thing you say you're fighting against!

[-] tabarnaski@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

I didn’t block you from making the joke. That’s censorship.

I know, and that's why I didn't say it was actually censorship. Just really close.

[-] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Not close at all, but ok.

[-] JamesStallion@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Not at all really. I don't see how this person having an (idiotic) opinion stifles/prevents/affects anyone's speech in any way.

[-] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

The discussion started in the shitter, it's never not been in the shitter. Did you think that Chris Rufo was making some high minded philosophical point when he wrote about making everything CRT as a weapon?

[-] Skoobie@lemmy.film 46 points 1 year ago

I mean, intent matters a little at least, right? Like, I prefer to use the term progressive when describing myself and I found this meme to be a firm chuckle and not problematic. It's saying that the logic used by things like CRT is thematically identical to logic used in biblical texts, which many on the right would actually oppose politically and ideologically.

So like, if the intent was to reframe CRT in a biblical light so as to show ethical inconsistency on the part of Republicans, and it works on a logical and a humourous level, what exactly is the problem?

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 year ago

It's saying that the logic used by things like CRT is thematically identical to logic used in biblical texts...

I don't think it's even going that far. I interpreted it as the conservative throwing the term around glibly without any actual understanding of what it means, simply because they don't like what is being said, and a perhaps a very tenuous connection.

[-] HopeOfTheGunblade@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Yeah. It was intentionally made into a boo phrase and thought terminating cliche. Chris Rufo has a lot to answer for, in poisoning the well of discourse in this country. Not that it wasn't already pretty terrible, but an ocean of piss is no excuse to dump barrels of cyanide.

[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

The only thing playing into the right wing agenda in this post, is you.

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