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[-] riskable@programming.dev 179 points 2 weeks ago

I browse "All" most of the time and the Femcel Memes show up pretty regularly. It's not like this gif though. It's more like watching a super interesting science experiment.

"Ah, yes. I see. I see. How interesting!"

My scientific notes so far:

  • They crave cuddles. It's almost like a cuddle-based economy.
[-] EggInDisguise 136 points 2 weeks ago

They crave cuddles.

Who among us cannot say the same?

[-] benderbeerman@lemmy.world 39 points 2 weeks ago

I just took an NFPA 70E electrical safety course, and the instructor was talking about how electricians love to cuddle.

I thought it was weird for a sec, then I remembered the last time I opened an electrical panel with someone else nearby. Then I remembered every other time I opened an electrical panel with other people nearby. Then I remembered all the times that I was all the other people nearby.

Then he showed us a video of an arc flash with 3 people inside the panel, and then there was nobody nearby.

[-] gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 47 points 2 weeks ago

Arc flashes are nature’s way of saying cuddle time is over.

[-] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 weeks ago

I can! I'm disgusted by other people touching me. I'm more like those shy cats that hide under the furniture if you try to pet them, and only come hang out next to you if you leave them alone

(and yes it's 'tism)

[-] GhostFace@lemmy.today 19 points 2 weeks ago

You can crave cuddles and be disgusted by other human beings at the same time.

It's called I have a person, and only that person may touch me. And the cat. The cat too.

[-] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 9 points 2 weeks ago

Understandable, yes! I lack that too though, I just don't like to be touched nor touch others, and I do not desire it either. I do like to pet... or I guess more like poke and pat animals (though there's specific conditions for what type of fur I will tolerate touching), but that's about it. I can hug my dog but that's about the extend of it. I also have problems with my own limbs touching each other or my torso which causes more issues honestly. "Touch starved" is something I simply don't understand lmao

[-] TheBrideWoreCrimson@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 weeks ago

Until you wrote "I also have problems with my own limbs", I thought your sensitivity could be due to the warmth of other human bodies which some people find hard to deal with, indeed. But if you also have a constant "pins and needles" feeling and cannot even stand your own touch, so to speak, you might want to look into your sodium levels. It changed things a very great deal for me. Well, that and seriously reducing my caffeine intake.

[-] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

Oh no it's not "pins and needles" it's just disgust, I have hypersensitivity to touch in general and touching humans is basically just the worst of it for some reason. A bit like you'd step on dog shit or touch something rotting etc. I get the shivers and all that, it's terrible. If I don't get the unpleasant touch to stop quick enough, eventually I go crazy and will struggle like a rabid animal, since it's so intolerable - I know because I've gotten to that point couple times by trying jeans on... I don't know why or how my own limbs can trigger this shit as well, it's just my stupid corpse being shitty I guess. I can't do breathing exercises or mindfulness stuff either, because becoming even more aware of my body makes it so much worse

[-] Little8Lost@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

In my case it helped greatly to tell others that i have a fear of human touch even though that was not accurate at all but others understood easier and knew what to dont.

[the rest you can skip, i got carried away a bit]

Then at some point i actually developed a fear without noticing: fear of the touch consequences. In retrospect it was very stressful with all the mindfulness to track everyones movements and directional intentions.

After switching schools i could not avoid others anymore and did go into confrontation therapy (handshakes & hugs, mostly worked because i was the one innitiating/controlling) which got rid of the hyperventilating panic and switched it to something mostly neutral and dependent to person. But except my bf and close family i dont seek out touches activly because i still feel it.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 19 points 2 weeks ago

Straight guys can't say it. Not because they don't crave them, they just can't say that they do without social sanction. Everyone else apparently gets a pass though.

[-] ScytheDraven47@piefed.zip 16 points 2 weeks ago

I'll say it; I crave cuddles.

Cuddles while watching TV is one of the only things that'll pull me away from my computer.

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[-] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 55 points 2 weeks ago

Another note is that they seem to all be autistic, with many of them exhibiting symptoms of severe depression. Most are also trans lesbians. Many seem to be cat/fox/puppygirls.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 35 points 2 weeks ago

Conclusion: headpats are in order

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[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 23 points 2 weeks ago

Depressed autistic transbians commiserating about loneliness

"Aw cute puppygirls!" head pats

Depessed autistic cis guys commiserating about loneliness

"Ew gross incels, yuck!" social stigma

[-] SharkWeek 23 points 2 weeks ago

The difference being that the puppygirls aren't lashing out and demeaning others ... they're just bed rotting while watching yaoi

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 14 points 2 weeks ago

Lots of lonely guys aren't lashing out and demeaning others either, but people don't notice them because they're not lashing out and demeaning others. They still get labeled as incels though, and if they find that hurtful then people will absolutely shred them for it anyway.

Also, they'll be shamed for bed rotting, and shamed for watching yuri. No matter what they do, they'll be shamed for it. So it's honestly not surprising when a number of them end up lashing out.

[-] SharkWeek 8 points 2 weeks ago

Are people calling those who don't behave like assholes "incel" though?

And do you think that women are not judged if they behave in the femcel manner?

It seems like you're applying a double standard, there.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, people do call even the ones who aren't being assholes "incels." It's a derogatory term that gets used against anyone who doesn't get laid. Like calling someone a "virgin." It's shitty, and it promotes toxic masculinity. It also objectifies women by implying that men need to "get p***y" in order to be worthy of basic respect.

And I'm tired of hearing this excuse that "it doesn't refer to literal involuntary celibates, it refers to redpilled misogynistic jerks." But that simply isn't true, because people definitely apply it to literal "involuntary celibates" and use it as an insult like calling someone a "virgin." It's childish and immature. Also, there are lots of misogynistic jerks who get laid. Focusing all your ire on "incels" misses the point entirely, lets those people off the hook, and perpetuates the issue by communicating the subtext that "you can be a misogynistic jerk as long as you get laid, and then we'll still respect you." If you can't see how that's toxic and detrimental to society, then I can't help you.

And do you think that women are not judged if they behave in the femcel manner?

They're more likely to be fetishized, which is bad in a different way. But it certainly hasn't risen to the level of a cultural pastime like shaming incels has.

It seems like you're applying a double standard, there.

I'm not the one applying a double-standard. I'm pointing out the double-standard.

I never said "femcels should be shamed, and incels shouldn't be."

I said "femcels don't get shamed the same way incels do."

If the former is how you interpret the latter, that's on you. If I need to explicitly state what I meant, it's closer to this:

"Maybe nobody should be shamed for being lonely and having poor social skills, regardless of gender."

If the issue is misogyny, target the misogyny. Not the inability to get sex, because that is going to do nothing to address the misogyny.

[-] Soulg@ani.social 5 points 2 weeks ago

All well said and more articulate than I could pull off, bravo.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago

I've had to put a lot of thought into this over the years, because usually anything I say about it gets deflected into a strawman and then I just get called a redpilled incel and suddenly people assume that I'm making demands on women's bodies, when all I'm demanding is the same baseline level of respect that literally everyone else deserves.

So I have to navigate the argument very delicately, or else people assume I meant things that I didn't say.

[-] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

And then people call you an incel anyway, because it's such an incel move to defend people who get called incels, and they didn't read the "wall of text" (a couple of paragraphs) anyway.

[-] SharkWeek 3 points 2 weeks ago

From that wall of text, I'm going to surmise that "incel" has been used as a pejorative towards you, with a reason that you're blind to

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

From that dismissive answer, I'm going to surmise that you leap to conclusions about people and throw around "incel" as an insult because it makes you feel powerful to punch down on people with poor social skills.

[-] SharkWeek 3 points 2 weeks ago

I've never used that word as a pejorative. In fact, my favourite regular was a man who found himself unable to socialise with women

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

Okay, you're just assuming I'm blind to some reason that you assume people have to call me that pejoratively, as you assume they do. You don't actually use it pejoratively, just strongly insinuate it. Got it.

[-] SharkWeek 3 points 2 weeks ago

Oh no, I think you're a self-centered prize dickhead.

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

You're the one who made this conversation about me, so calling me self-centered feels a bit like a really shitty attempt at entrapment.

You clearly give so many shits though, to still be carrying on. But going off the responses by people who actually read what I said in my "wall of text" that you didn't read before firing off insults, they seemed to think it was an articulate and well-reasoned argument.

So maybe you're the dickhead?

[-] SharkWeek 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

Huh? Oh, you're still here? That's weird...

[-] SharkWeek 3 points 2 weeks ago
[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I just think it's weird that you care so much about punching down on people you view as lesser. Like you seriously must really enjoy insulting people who already don't do well socially.

It's not really the fact that you're commenting that's weird, it's the malice that you do it with and the fact that you apparently don't have anything better to do than demean others. And how you try to do so with this pretense of moral superiority.

I'm just glad I don't have to live with so much hatred in my heart. That sounds heavy. I kinda pity you, actually...

[-] SharkWeek 3 points 2 weeks ago

If I enjoyed punching down on men who have problems getting laid, why would I have enjoyed fucking so many of them?

[-] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 weeks ago

So does "social skills" = "getting laid" in your opinion?

Because I only mentioned social skills, and you seemed to make the leap to "getting laid."

That sounds like a you problem.

Also, I don't care who you fuck or how much you enjoy it. It's kinda weird that you're trying to use that to justify being an asshole.

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[-] DeadDigger@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 weeks ago

Hmm yes they often are even when they are just complaining that they disdain the situation. I don't know about women though I don't know that many that are bed rotting

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[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

They'll be nice if you give them a pink monster and tell them they're a good girl.

[-] applebusch 7 points 2 weeks ago

I prefer white monster but yes

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[-] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

just wait till you see the cuddle parties in vrchat with full body tracking hehe

(I'm the one with piece signs)

though, unfortunately not with the folks from femcel memes... :(

^cough cough !VRChat@sh.itjust.works cough cough^

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 4 points 2 weeks ago

Strange as fuck heh. Also, it's a rich person solution as well.

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