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[-] voidsignal@lemmy.world 250 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

On one hand I'm happy this fuck is dead, and I hope he did suffer.

On the other hand, we all know he did not commit suicide and got killed by the Pedoresident following the playbook of his BFF putin to try to save his fat orange pedo ass

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 7 hours ago

he definitely got assassinated, giving how fast they tried to cover it up, and the news/congress politicinas(both DNC/GOP) dint want it to come to light

[-] sakuraba@lemmy.ml 14 points 11 hours ago

I hate when characters are killed off screen

[-] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

It turns out the actor playing Epstein was himself involved in a sex trafficking scandal. He was fired. That's why they couldn't have an on-screen death for the Epstein character. The whole thing is super meta.

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 175 points 17 hours ago

There's still the option that it was a faked death. That much wealth and power, if it could be done, that's who and when it would be done. I'm not giving it much credence without more evidence, but I've got no reason to think that it's not possible given the series of absurd happenings that morning.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 7 hours ago

the best place to hide is the country that orchestated it, israel.

[-] pizza_the_hutt@sh.itjust.works 71 points 17 hours ago

Somebody in Israel logged into Epstein's Fortnight account a few years after his supposed death, FYI.

[-] prole 8 points 10 hours ago

Epstein's Fortnite account

I hate this timeline so much

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 51 points 16 hours ago

Is there any reason to believe it wasn’t hacked? If I’m murdered then my account being accessed doesn’t prove I’m secretly alive. Especially if I used insecure passwords like Epstein is reported to have done.

It’s not impossible, but if he was still alive I find it hard to believe he’d just access it once and never again. Stupid billionaires with bad passwords probably happens all the time and we just don’t know about it because they’re not at the center of an international child sex exploitation crime ring.

[-] Mirshe@lemmy.world 2 points 42 minutes ago

See, this is my take as well - other people knew/guessed his passwords and used his account that way. Keeping him alive really doesn't do anything for the "it's all a coverup" story, especially when a LOT of his associates and contacts are getting tangled up in this release of his files. Additionally, this guy was talking so openly about manipulating markets, sex crimes, and all sorts of legal and quasi legal shit that I find it hard to imagine that EVEN IF he was connected to Israeli intelligence like has been suggested, EVEN IF he got spirited out of prison and away to Tel Aviv, I find it hard to imagine Mossad would want to keep such a DEEPLY compromised asset alive instead of driving him into the Negev and putting two bullets in the back of his head.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 33 points 15 hours ago

Trump's Twitter password was maga or something like that. After it got hacked I'm pretty sure it was maga2020 when it got hacked again

[-] f314@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago

So I guess it’s maga2028 now?

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago

This was a hoax, look it up.

[-] uberdroog@lemmy.world 41 points 17 hours ago

I would bet a handler was checking the device and fucked up.

[-] poke@sh.itjust.works 30 points 16 hours ago

and played a few ranked rocket league games for fun while they were at it

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

That someone was exposed as a teenage "hacker".

I used quotes because it was more social engineering and lying than any sort of hack.

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 13 points 15 hours ago

"hacker"... According to Epic, someone changed their handle to Epstein's handle that was exposed in the files. There was no hacking involved.

I would absolutely believe it that he was walked out and flown to Israel where he lives as a hero of the pedo-genocide state, but his brother who identified his body is vocal about evidence it wasn't a suicide. I'm not sure what incentive he'd have to both lie about identifying his brother's body and making so much noise about it being a murder...

[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

his brother who identified his body is vocal about evidence it wasn’t a suicide.

He was killed! He's dead, but killed! Dead, you see? Dead. Don't go looking for him.

[-] JustinTheGM@ttrpg.network 7 points 14 hours ago

I've been hearing that the "changed handle" thing isn't valid, because when an account handle is changed you can still see the original on the user's profile (and that wasn't the case for the littlestjeff account). With all the misinformation flying around, I have no idea about the accuracy of this though.

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 hours ago

Yeah, it seems implausible to me that such a gaping security hole would be in a hugely popular game that long, but I guess that’s also not impossible. Stupider things have happened.

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

it’s a very common security issue. it’s usually not a problem because deletions aren’t very common: usually accounts are just inactive, and it’s not a problem that really effects the company itself so there’s no really big reason to focus on fixing it

i’m not arguing either way on this specific case; i’d not heard about it until right now… but it’s pretty plausible from a software and security standpoint

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 7 hours ago

Does it sound plausible from the perspective of a company that has probably at minimum thousands of accounts getting deleting or renamed per day? This seems like something that would have caused much bigger problems much earlier, just due to the number of people involved.

[-] pupbiru@aussie.zone 1 points 6 hours ago

imo still very plausible… the key thing is deleted… accounts are rarely deleted, especially when they contain purchases and things like fortnight accounts do. more often than not, they’re suspended or just inactive which means the public ID remains used

[-] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 5 points 15 hours ago

I’m not sure what incentive he’d have to both lie about identifying his brother’s body and making so much noise about it being a murder…

Remember that he was deeply involved in Epstein's businesses, including holding the position of president over the J Epstein & Co investment firm.

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Then if he went far enough to lie about identifying the body, it would serve him to not make a lot of noise about there being a big government conspiracy around it...

[-] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 1 points 6 hours ago

True, assuming this is rational behavior. People can do some pretty crazy things out of hubris or pressure though.

I'm not going to definitively state that Jeffery isn't dead. It really is most plausible that he died that night. I just, wouldn't be surprised if he showed up alive.

[-] 3abas@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, that's exactly what I said.

[-] almost1337@lemmy.zip 2 points 15 hours ago

I read somewhere that it was somebody else who changed their username to match his, and not the same account. Can't find a source for it either way though.

[-] SeeMarkFly@lemmy.ml 20 points 17 hours ago

If I had that much money I know I would have a "Hail Mary" boobytrap that released a bunch of incriminating evidence in case of my death.

That might be Ghislaine's job.

[-] eestileib 14 points 17 hours ago

Imagine if he'd been one of the state of the union guests.

[-] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 17 hours ago

Trump pulls off his face, gasp it was Epstein all along

[-] cattywampas@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

Not impossible, but I don't see what advantage there would be to keeping him alive vs just getting rid of him entirely.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 8 points 17 hours ago

A simple trade, destruction of evidence in exchange for his life. Mind you I'd still kill him regardless but I also wouldn't make any deal with slime like that to begin with.

[-] gdog05@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

I'm guessing a guy like that who traded in relationships and secrets would be smart enough to set up a dead man drop in the event he goes quiet for too long. It keeps his life valuable.

[-] Goodeye8@piefed.social 4 points 14 hours ago

That would make sense if he wasn't arrested, convicted, interrogated and with a mountain of evidence in the hands of the FBI. A dead drop isn't going to keep you alive if the person who wants you silenced thinks you're already spilling the beans.

But even if that's the case he's alive until he clears the dead drop because he'd still be a loose end.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago

That too. Really it would depend how stupid he and his handlers were/are, I can't really make any statements on stupid or smart rich assholes are though since I come from a place of assuming everyone of these profligates are universally just above braindead.

[-] fizzle@quokk.au 1 points 14 hours ago

Who knows.

Like someone else said there might have been a dead man's switch ready to release all the kompromat.

Death is obviously very final, if he's stashed somewhere then you could wheel him out to testify although I can't really think of a circumstance where that would be advantageous.

I tend to think murder is the far simpler objective and therefore the most likely.

[-] justastranger@sh.itjust.works 16 points 16 hours ago

Does it still count as suicide if they hand you the rope and tell you this is the easy way out and if you don't play ball they'll make sure it's painful?

[-] chaogomu@lemmy.world 7 points 15 hours ago

The only threat they needed to make was a return to general population.

I seem to remember him being attacked by another inmate. Instead of being put into protective custody he was put on suicide watch, which is its own kind of hell.

So, he changed his will to fuck over his victims, and is suddenly pulled off suicide watch.

The only two people needed to then make sure Epstein was dead would be the warden probably Epstein's own lawyer. Maybe the psychiatrist who signed off on the removal from suicide watch... But the suicide watch wasn't initially justified, so pulling Epstein off it wouldn't seem strange.

Hell, if you were a clever, high placed official in the DOJ, an example being Bill Barr, you could simply tell the warden to "put some pressure on the pedo" and then use the lawyer to deliver the real message of "kill yourself before we put you into the general population".

Then you get a dead loose end and no record of illegal activity inside the prison. Also you only have to buy off a single person who likely already has questionable morals.

[-] redsand@infosec.pub 8 points 16 hours ago

Sorry dude but he's not dead. You have to look at the evidence beyond a headline but it isn't some strechy conspiracy at this point. None of the photos of him dead look dead, morticians have weighed in on that pretty decisively. He didn't just have his xbox account go active after he had a fedex account and some other thing like streaming or an e-mail im not finding confirmations on. Then there's the 2 guards who found him, read those interviews, again, doesn't seem dead. Then there's the notes in his cell with what seems like an escape plan that is for some reason partially redacted. And it goes on...

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 14 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Fun spin to put on "Epstein didn't kill himself" but also, you know, come on.

[-] redsand@infosec.pub 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Yes. Come on. Read. Watch. Investigate.

Did you look up anything I just typed or oh, no, you just hit reply and assumed you already know everything you need to? Don't fret, I'll edit in links after lunch for the lazy.

mortician on photos

Notes in cell

Guard statments (you can read these elsewhere I'm in a hurry)

fedex

bank account

Fortnite was another player changing their name according to Epic but no comment on the redacted vbucks purchase in the files.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 19 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

"None of the photos of him dead look dead" isn't a great choice as your very first point if you're trying to make a compelling argument.

[-] redsand@infosec.pub 3 points 11 hours ago

I have added links. I'll add the other online account if I find it.

[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

O...kay, you got any sources with even a shred of credibility? Because those are links to two random entertainers on youtube, a substack article (yay, nazi news platforms!) and an article that claims to have accessed epstein's FedEx account but doesn't provide even a screenshot as evidence.

[-] Goodeye8@piefed.social 10 points 15 hours ago

Who benefits from him being alive? His assets were seized so it's not like he could plan his own escape. The evidence was also already seized so it's not like he could keep evidence hidden. Most of his contact would be gone on the account him supposed to be dead. What would make him so important to keep him alive? It's not to make sure he can't testify because dead men also don't testify. So what would be the reason for keeping him alive and out of prison?

[-] redsand@infosec.pub 2 points 12 hours ago

Simple. It's what Ghislaine wants and she holds all the blackmail in the world(almost literally). Jeffrey is hers, she gets what she wants.

Yeah it's pain in the ass and overcomplicated but if this is an ongoing CIA Mossad operation it's not really weird. The FBI has 14+TB of video footage logged in evidence. Imagine how much power Maxwell really weilds if she's backed by Mossad

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