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[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 78 points 6 days ago

This is a weird argument considering that gas and Diesel absolutely go bad over time, and unlike electricity you can't exactly make more of them.

I mean you can set up solar panels, a water wheel, or Wind Turbine for off grid generation. And thus you can still charge an EV and many other things. With smaller or moderate solar setups it's probably not going to charge super fast but you could still charge it.

Compare that to gas and Diesel. It may seem better since you just pour it in the tank and it works without hours or days of charging. But eventually it's going to go bad, and it's going to start going bad everywhere in your own stockpile, in the gas stations and more isn't being drilled and refined.

Diesels are slightly better than gasoline engines since you can convert them to run them off different oils, there really isn't anything else you can run a gasoline engine off. But those are also finite, and even though some of them you can make yourself it's actually more work to produce enough vegetable oil to fuel a diesel engine then it is to use solar or wind to charge a battery. Even at abysmally slow speeds.

And actually ironically Diesel and gasoline have these same issues even outside of apocalyptic settings. If there was an economic crisis (or just some idiot in power) which stopped drilling and refining from happening then Diesel and gas will run out and those Diesel and gasoline cars are going to do nobody any good.

[-] htrayl@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago

Also, if you are really concerned, but think youll have something like diesel available, EVs are still better as not only are they more flexible, but a pretty low cost multi-fuel generator could charge it.

[-] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 days ago

Exactly, EVs just make more sense since they are more versatile in how you can charge them, you can charge them using a Gas generator (using that stockpile of Gasoline) or with a Solar setup if you're in it for the long term. A gas or Diesel car can only run on Gas and is basically useless once all the gas runs out or goes bad, and unlike electricity it's basically impossible to make Gasoline or Diesel yourself.

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