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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 214 points 2 days ago

Having them pointed towards lemmy.ml is a little concerning.

[-] guaraguaito 84 points 2 days ago

I made an alternative linking to lemm.ee

because in general this is a good flyer

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago

We should do a bunch of them with varying non-Tankie instances

Like programming.dev or lemmy.blahaj.zone

Or maybe even better, have a small table at the bottom with their focuses

[-] guaraguaito 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah. join-lemmy.org unfortunately isn’t great because it often points to random semi dead instances.

Something like,

The instance you join doesn’t matter much — because you can access all content no matter what instance you are on — but it can be nice to be on an instance that shares you interests and values, because you will have to conform to the rules of that instance. Think of it like your clan — it’s like your email being yourname@yourworkplace — you can still email everyone else and see their emails, but it signals something about you, and it has different rules.

Here are a couple options:

General Purpose:

  • discuss.online (hosted US)
  • lemm.ee
  • lemmy.cafe
  • sh.itjust.works (hosted Canada)

Interests:

  • mander.xyz (Science)
  • programming.dev (Programming)
  • infosec.pub (Cybersecurity)
  • lemmynsfw.com (Porn)

Diversity:

  • lemmy.blahaj.zone (LGBTQ+)

Regions/Langauges:

  • jlai.lu (French)
  • feddit.org (German)
  • lemmy.ca (Canada)
  • aussie.zone (Australia)

Ideology:

  • lemmy.dbzer0.com (Anarchism and Piracy)
  • slrpnk.net (Environmentalist Leftists)
  • lemmy.ml (Authoritarian Leftists)

Please copypaste my comment and add instances / improve it

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 days ago

I like the idea, but people have said several times that choosing an instance is a barrier for them.

I usually go with

"Lemmy has 42k monthly active users

Feel free if you have any questions"

[-] leraje 5 points 1 day ago

I mean, why not go totally targeted? If there are people here who still have reddit accounts then tailor the graphic for the sub you post in. If its an lgbtqia+ sub, suggest Blahaj, if its a tech sub suggest programming.dev, if its a piracy or data hoarder sub db0 etc etc.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Oh indeed, but usually it's on /r/RedditAlternatives so I have no idea what the person I'm talking to is like

Also that way my message can work for lurkers too

[-] guaraguaito 9 points 2 days ago

Yeah I think I elaborated too much. Let’s just keep recommending small instances — because the current centralisation on world sucks.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

I’ve been thinking of switching instances.

But I think part of the problem is the domain names on so many instances are so odd. Lemmy.world is very clean and easy to tell someone verbally, as opposed to say sopudi.xvz or dbzer0 or blahaj.zone.

I suppose “discuss.online” isn’t such a bad name. And “midwest.social” but people who are not in the Midwest might not feel like they identify with that geographically.

[-] guaraguaito 4 points 1 day ago

lemmy.cafe, lemmy.zip, lemmy.one

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 3 points 1 day ago
[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience.

I strongly have the opposite opinion. Let people start on Lemmy.World and once they have experience (like you), they can move to where they want.

They're an actual non-profit org out of the Netherlands with professional hosting.

Federation is a feature like divorce is a feature. It's extremely important that it exists and is accessible. Not everybody needs to do it. Other servers are a fine option if you know what you're doing and are willing to deal with more issues OR if there's a compelling reason (such as the various regional servers).

When federation between lemm.ee and lemmy.world is behind by an hour or two, where do you think users will have a better experience? When 90% of their content is now a couple hours older, that's a worse experience.

And spreading people out doesn't really fix anything. It just puts more stress on federation technology. If you spread out all the users, Federation becomes a much harder to manage many to many relationship between all the servers, instead of primarily being a one to many relationship.

In short, if you spread out the users equally, suddenly every instance begins to have federation issues with each other, and everyone has a worse experience. With a bigger "main" instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common.

The regional servers have more of a balance here. 90% of their content may be old, but the 10% they are up to date with are the things closest to them, most important to them, and maybe in their language.

I do appreciate having several general use instances. I just don't want to send newbies there who will generalize their experience to all of Lemmy and the Fediverse.

[-] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

Lemmy.world is also the most reliable and the smoothest experience.

Using a Lemmy version so dated they can't remove their uploaded media

And spreading people out doesn’t really fix anything.

Lemm.ee has 3600 monthly active users. SJW 2500. The 17000 users of LW could be spread across other instances without issues.

With a bigger “main” instance, the majority of users are less affected by federation issues, and the issues are less common.

With a bigger main instance, the mods of that instance have a tendency to power trip:

If you want the rest of the platform to trust you, be responsible. This is not Reddit, power trips will be called out.

[-] Alk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Didn't even mention mine. For a brand new user, they don't know what the fuck is going on there.

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[-] chad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Whatever happened to Beehaw? Did they defederate so much to the point that they're not really relevant to other instances? I feel like they had an application process and were just generally walled off.

[-] guaraguaito 4 points 1 day ago

They also have stopped updating lemmy so they are running on really old software — which makes them incompatible with most apps!

[-] chad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

That makes a lot of sense! I'm browsing with Thunder.

[-] ChadMcTruth@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago
[-] PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Seriously. People need to understand they can shop around for an instance that fits them better.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago

To be fair, it was apparently posted in r/anarchocommunism, so I'd just chalk it up to knowing your audience. At least it was just .ml, and not grad or hexbear!

[-] Excrubulent@slrpnk.net 1 points 21 hours ago

I'd say that's even more tone-deaf then. Anarchists hate tankies.

[-] sudoer777@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

Not always, IRL they seem to get along pretty well

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Capitalism destroyed our government, captured our constitution, and is literally ending the world (for humans, don't worry it'll be fine in a few million years and it'll be like we never existed, thank goodness for that).

I find comedy in people likely here due to the greed rot of Spez wanting to go public and now fondling billionaire balls still, here on Lemmy like digital refugees in the wake of capitalism breaking promises to and destroying a community to increase private profit, going "ewww commies and socialists."

Credit where it's due, the capitalist's Orwell game is God tier.

[-] Sakychu@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago

No, we are going "ewww tankies"

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

.ml would be worse than Reddit if they had the same number of users.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago

More than a little concerning, it's happened plenty of times before. People see that BS on the Tankie Triad and then leave thinking Lemmy is just a bunch of tankies

Sometimes they try another non-Tankie instance and realize that we're not all like that, but I'm sure a majority never return always thinking that all of Lemmy is "that Tankie hangout" or worse, a Voat 2.0

[-] DonAntonioMagino@feddit.nl 19 points 2 days ago

I'm not very into Lemmy, what's so bad about lemmy.ml?

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 61 points 2 days ago

They're part of the Tankie Triad who deny the human rights violations of the CCP and hold them up as the gold standard.

Basically Authoritarian bootlickers pretending to not be authoritarians

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

It's a tankie instance. "ML" as in Marxism-Leninism.

[-] guaraguaito 12 points 2 days ago

and in practice they are more MLM (maoism) or MLS (stalinism).

[-] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah if they were run of the mill Marxists it'd be one thing, but it's an authoritarian mess

[-] marine_mustang@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

And here I was thinking it was just a cheap ccTLD to use.

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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago

It's controversial. It was created by the creators of Lemmy and has some techbro feelings about a lot of stuff. I'm not trying to start an .ml fight, I'm against pushing for any particular instance.

I would recommend new users to stay away from the biggest ones and steer towards one level down. You want enough communities and instances to line your front page, but the big ones are big enough. Let's spread the load.

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[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We read and comprehend the Communist Manifesto with some level of agreement and usually quite a bit more. But it's mostly privacy focused. Full disclosure: vegan anarchist.

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

It's mostly Tankie focused, Tiananmen square massacre happened, and the CCP and Russia are Authoritarian dictatorships

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 day ago

I don’t understand how you could possibly think this. Literally any discussion of China, even non-political that does not conform to the admins beliefs results in an immediate instance-wide ban. It is one of the most censored spaces on the internet and absolutely not safe for anarchist ideas.

[-] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 day ago

My account is 3 years old and have talked about anarchist ideas with them in the past and haven't been banned. Don't know what to tell you hoss

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Whatever, infighting gets us nowhere , down with the big bad

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