"don't agree with trans people" on what topic? which star trek is best? emacs vs vim? coffee vs tea?
finish the fucking sentence,, asshole
All trans persons I know choose vim. So yeah, emacs is kinda gay
Could be worse, they could be part of the "I don't believe in (insert verifiable fact)" crowd.
I will never understand why any gay person would ever be transphobic.
Like.........??? You do understand that people have used many of the exact same arguments against trans rights as they've done to suppress gay rights too... right?
Same way so many gay people are racist too or that you have so many classist or ableist gays. People just often don't care about what doesn't affect them. Hypocrisy is common as hell in humanity. We're all guilty of it to some extent, usually though it's very minor and in the background. But whether it's big or small people often ignore their own hypocrisies. This shit is just blatant in the gay community. I think they do have the self-awareness of realizing the same arguments are used against them. They just don't care.
Bisexual bias from an ex boyfriend of mine. Believed I would leave him for a girl constantly.
Same idea.
Guy was tranphobic too because it finally gave him a chance to be a bully instead of the bullied.
Fucking sociopaths
Oh no, for some of them it's totally different. Also there is a lot of homophobia inside the homosexual circles. Couldn't believe it myself, but sometimes if you don't look or act like the cliche or like common homosexual stuff like music or movies, you're an imposter and not really gay. Saw it happen myself at a lesbian party. Two girls just looking female were bullied cause it's "not lesbian" for a couple to be both female looking, that's just two best friends being confused. "It's just a phase" is a thing I heard quite a lot that evening. Never knew you signed up for a membership with rules and stuff when you're "entering" the LG area. Just thought if you only like women as a woman you're lesbian and same for men only liking men, but it seems that's not the case.
Yeah... ugh. I know there's a lot of biphobia (and, as OP mentioned, racism/ableism/classism) in the community, too, which is equally fucking absurd. I guess being queer doesn't necessarily mean you're any less of an ignorant asshole.
Transphobic gay men are sadly common. I think some of them think that getting rid of us will make it easier for them to be accepted.
There’s a lot of gross and uncomfortable discourse about the way cis gay men treat trans gay men as well. My boyfriend and I were talking about some nasty shit that went down on Survivor…
The same reason why women can be misogynistic. They think they're one of the "good ones" and #notlikeothergays
Like they've forgotten that leopards ate their face too
These cowards need to finish the fucking sentence. "don't agree"with what exactly? Their right to exist?
It's amazing how people in general can have no empathy for who are discriminated against even if they themselves were discriminated against.
The dissonance is uniquely human. For some reason certain people will never see themselves in others no matter how bad society has shit upon them in the past.
The smug "stay home with MY BOYFRIEND WHO IS A BOY AND I AM A BOY" after already saying he's gay was a real cherry on top
Tbf I also sometimes disagree with trans people. For example my cute friend told me that red is not my color and she is so wrong about that? Like??
Literally just replace "trans" with any other queer identity and see how that sound you bozo.
Bi and Ace erasure are sadly pretty common.. (not a competition or anything, just saying)
Well it's likely that such a fuckwad, does have his issues with Bi people as well.
Hell I wouldn’t even be surprised if he’s uncomfortable with lesbians. I’ve found many who are like that define their acceptance of other queer people on how much they feel they’re similar.
I’m not surprised about this at all. There are gay republicans after all.
Had to explain that to my gay son that there was gay Trump supporters and he was stunned.
Acceptance for me but not for the?
I'm pretty sure he implied that "getting fucked" was his backup plan. Also, that guy can go eat shit.
Also probably his backup plan.
That’s just disrespectful to people who eat shit for fun, let’s not drag them down to this level.
Ingratitude is one of the most subtly commonplace toxic things to exist. I see so many gay folks be terrible to trans people and lesbians without any knowledge of how historically important those groups were to their own liberation. So many folks just want a big fun uncomplicated party with rainbows where they feel centered without realizing the intent of the original Pride. OG Pride was modeled after an Independence day parade. If our founding event was Stonewall we would honor those who fought like heroes and live out loud where everyone could see and made it so our issues could not be so easily swept under the rug ever again. Trans people of color have always been right at the heart of Pride. Trans people in general were key in fighting for marriage equality because it was our fight too due to the ban creating final impenetrable barriers to acceptance of our legal documentation.
Yeah, if you "don't agree with trans people" then you can stay home and wave your rainbow flag alone because you sure as hell aren't celebrating Pride.
something something first brick at stonewall
I also thought of that. Basically upper middle class gays and lesbians got to live in peace in NYC and immediately abandoned the rest of the community.
This kind of feels like the "why aren't you inclusive of my racism?" argument conservatives have used against liberals. "I thought you were supportive of different viewpoints?!"
[...] I'm just gonna have to stay at home with my boyfriend.
[...] get fucked.
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As a bi person who does support trans people, I dislike pride parades b/c they make us all look bad. Now what?
Don't go to them. Seems simple.
Edit: Let me make this make sense for the people who are so eager to downvote one of their own. Let's say you attend an endangered whale conservation group, but data shows the group's actions (due to a few careless individuals) have actually led to more whale deaths than it has prevented. Then your response to someone critiquing you is "then don't join the group"? You see how that is unproductive, if not morally reprehensible?
This condescending attitude is the same type of exclusionary BS that got us into needing pride parades in the first place, you know.
"Don't think like me? You're not welcome here. We cannot accommodate a diversity of perspectives. It's our way or the highway."
And liberals wonder why right wingers accuse them of being fascists.
I don't like parades...
Well, then don't go to them.
Fascist!
Ummm...
In seriousness, I don't think that the person you were replying to was saying "You're excluded." They were trying to say "Okay, you don't like them and think they shouldn't happen. In that case, don't go to them and don't support them." You're not obligated to like the same things that the rest of the LGBT community likes. That seems pretty reasonable and the opposite of fascism.
In fact, I'd say you are perfectly within your rights to vocally express your distaste for Pride parades. It's reasonable to find them distasteful while still supporting the LGBT community. You could also voice what you dislike about them and what you'd like to see change so that they better support what you'd like them to achieve for the community. I don't think that you'd be within your rights to actually stop the parades from happening, just like I don't think others would be within their rights to force you to attend.
What? You said you don't like pride parades and the response was "don't go then". Not everything is for everyone.
Do you want everyone who enjoys pride parades to change them to specifically cater to you?
As a straight guy, I like going with my gf because the atmosphere and party is great. Also, just to show support
It's called "pride". If you're not proud of it then I guess just don't show up.
I am proud, and I'd like to join a movement that actually accomplishes meaningful change for the acceptance of LGBT+ people, which I believe pride parades currently do not.
I'll join the pride parade the day the goal becomes to convince others that we're just like them, with jobs, families and bills to pay. Not sex-crazed maniacs, which is the stereotype perpetuated by a small minority amplified on right wing media.
I have the same opinion. Pride parades often hurt the public image of the LGBT community. At least ban the leather fetish shit.
Someone else once said that they love humans, just ban all jews.
Leather is only a fetish because some people decided that it is. There is nothing inherently wrong with leather.
Ban leather fetish? You are the definition of ignorance. That is what is hurting the public image. Do you also go to a rave and tell them to dress differently? All that neon clothing is hurting your eyes? Or to any demo with people dressing as unicorns?
You underestimate the public. Who cares about leather? We care about people being ignorant dicks, about people who are obnoxious and about people who are trying to harm others. Not leather.
There is no difference between a business suit, a nipple piercing, a mini-skirt or a gag-ball. The person wearing those are what counts.
People trying to ban others, that's just sad. As long as decency laws are obeyed, who are you to judge? Fetish only exists because of ignorance. Otherwise, they would be hobbies.
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