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[-] Copernican@lemmy.world 74 points 9 months ago

But when will Nintendo start issuing those warnings for Mario games?

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 40 points 9 months ago

Honestly I'm glad we've moved from "Censor out anything that might be slightly objectionable" (Like they did with Sam & Max for example, and I believe the GTA Trilogy got hit with a bit of this), to "Look the game is old and from a different time, what society deems acceptable is always changing, deal with it or move on."

I'm so beyond tired of being told I can't have a steak because a baby can't chew it. I actually bought this three pack solely because it didn't censor Tomb Raider, a game I was very sure they were going to censor

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Like they did with Sam & Max

I had to look that one up since I had no recollection of anything that stood out as offensive. Most seemed silly to change to me, but I do agree with changing the line about the goggles being designed for special needs children after Sam referred to Max's "hideously oversized skull."

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[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 38 points 9 months ago

What stereotypes were in the games?

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 93 points 9 months ago

The stereotype that old British men are all butlers who get off on being locked in the freezer.

[-] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 33 points 9 months ago

Indeed. Some of us prefer being locked in the pantry.

[-] DaseinPickle@leminal.space 13 points 9 months ago

That’s not a stereotype.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Of course it isn't. I am clearly making a joke. lol holy crap this is happening every single day on lemmy now whats happening to this place?

[-] tuxtey@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

I think you were both making jokes

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Sarcasm is damn near impossible to pick up over text unless it's extremely obvious.

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

If it's extremely subtle sarcasm yes. I agree. There was nothing subtle about my post though

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[-] DaseinPickle@leminal.space 2 points 9 months ago

Something that is accurate and true is not a stereotype.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 9 months ago

I'm sorry, but another user has already confirmed that some British men prefer being locked in the pantry so it isn't accurate.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 months ago

Yeah, I crack sarcastic Jokes all the time and it feels like no one on Lemmy gets sarcasm

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

I like to call them deadpan instead of sarcasm. Sarcasm has a tone to let others know that it isn't serious, while deadpan relies fully on the content itself.

I had a lot more deadpan comments crash and burn on Reddit than here. And even in this case, someone just questioned the comment while it had overall positive reception. I think Lemmy generally gets deadpan.

[-] IHeartBadCode@kbin.social 56 points 9 months ago

While Crystal Dynamics didn’t specify which content it’s referring to, it’s speculated that it could be the animalistic depiction of Pacific Island natives in Tomb Raider 3, who are implied to be cannibals.

[-] reversebananimals@lemmy.world 38 points 9 months ago

There might be others, but The Dagger of Xian plotline in Tomb Raider II is a little "woo woo Chinese mysticism". You plunge it into your heart and turn into a dragon.

I'm not offended by it but I'd imagine that's not the kind of thing you'd write in a video game today.

[-] Tash@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago

While Crystal Dynamics didn’t specify which content it’s referring to, it’s speculated that it could be the animalistic depiction of Pacific Island natives in Tomb Raider 3, who are implied to be cannibals.

Like the fictional Indiana Jones style villages? Or the real life North Sentinel Island Sentinelese? I'm scratching my head too...

[-] chaogomu@kbin.social 57 points 9 months ago

The North Sentinel Island Sentinelese are not cannibals. They just want nothing to do with anyone not born on the island.

Which is a good policy to have, seeing as how the British genocided the rest of the Andaman Islands. They even landed on North Sentinel, kidnapped a few old people and children, and then sent the survivors back as plague bearers. (this was in 1880)

[-] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Yeah, it's getting pretty hard to be an isolated community anywhere these days. Looks like these guys in the nicobar islands may be fucked.

[-] grayhaze@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Dinosaurs without feathers.

[-] sbr32@kbin.social 5 points 9 months ago

In what world is that a question for a reasonable person?

A media company remade and re-released a piece of media and acknowledged that there may be problematic content, but that we should consider the time the media was made.

You don't need to know what the problematic content is, just accept their statement on it.

[-] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 51 points 9 months ago

In what world is that an answer for a reasonable person?

[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 47 points 9 months ago

you don't need to know what the problematic content is

You seem like the kind of person who would become a moderator, start banning people and when they ask why they were banned you would block them after replying "lol get fucked"

In what way is acquiring more knowledge a bad thing? If I don't recognize any possible problematic content, but other people say it's there, why shouldn't I be a Le to ask what's problematic about it? Have I been going around being casually racist without knowing?

Like damn my dude you're getting pissed at people for wanting to better themselves.

[-] pendulum_@lemmy.world 46 points 9 months ago

"Shut up and consume"

That's not how this works

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Then they don't need me to buy their shit lol.

[-] squid_slime@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

I'd still like to know.. Might be a deal breaker

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 32 points 9 months ago

Genuinely struggling to remember what that could even be about.

I mean, it's been like 25 years since I played them, but I don't recall any obviously bad things in there. It's not like it was filled with old Jackie Chan film levels of cartoon racism.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 15 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

The voice acting has quite a range of stereotyped accents. Nothing they say is overtly racist, but the over the top accents themselves are insensitive.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 12 points 9 months ago

Oh, OK. So more George Lucas than Tintin in the Congo.

[-] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 13 points 9 months ago

I think there were some "jungle tribe" type enemies somewhere but don't quote me on that

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

In Tomb Raider 3 an antagonist faction includes black men who want to eat Laura, and not in the same way I do if you catch my meaning.

[-] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

I haven't played it but that doesn't sound racist to me if the context is right. There are cannibal tribes today. They are black skinned. This is fact.

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 29 points 9 months ago

This is perfectly fine, its how they did it for the old Looney Tunes DVDs.

[-] MammyWhammy@lemmy.ml 16 points 9 months ago

And is what they should do rather than trying to delete it.

Provide context so that future generations can enjoy what's good about the media and acknowledge how parts of the content/media are problematic and not appropriate.

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago

Something I and probably everyone else forgets is that Looney Tunes was made in the 1930s and 1940s, not the 1990s.

[-] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

Lo Wang has entered the chat.

[-] Shadywack@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Do you want to wash wang, or watch Wang, wash wang?

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

WHOOOO want-a some Wang?

[-] merthyr1831@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

didn't need to be news does it?

[-] yamanii@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

I'm glad they did that, change on a remake or something, I don't recall if they actually did it for Anniversary since it was still a ps2 game, but if games are art they should be preserved as they were, this is just a remaster that you can even play with the old graphics if you want.

[-] Ilflish@lemm.ee 6 points 9 months ago

Neat, I'm with everyone here when I say this is the much better solution.I'd prefer it to be a bit more clear of a warning and a bit less of a company apology so people who do need the warnings such as younger kids are informed and not immediately put off by playing something almost immediately presented as 'inexcusable'.

[-] callouscomic@lemm.ee 3 points 9 months ago

Ermahgerd! Why dey gutta ram politics into mah games, they're ruining my heritage or something I dunno, rabble rabble!!!

/s for the morons

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