If I had 5 dicks I'd post pics on Reddit then never prove it.
Cyclops: count me in, i want to see while not destroying anything without my sunglasses.
I really wished Rogue had just taken her gloves off and held Storm's hand in that scene. Would have put the point across beautifully.
"Theres nothing to cure? Is that Right Ms. Amazing powers with no horrific disfigurement thats not a threat to anyone?" takes off glove "If I dont need a cure, then shake my hand. Go on. Do it. I'm perfect as I am, right?"
"Uh..I.."
"SHAKE MY GODDAMN HAND BEFORE I WRAP IT AROUND YOUR THROAT YOU STUCK UP ELITIST BITCH"
Chainsaw hands Joe
That's what they call chainsaw man in the dub
To be fair, mutants are just an allegory for gay or otherwise non-heterosexual people. This scene makes a lot more sense when you factor this in.
Nah. It was more about disability. Prof X is in a wheelchair, Cyclops is blind, Beast or Nightcrawler disfigured, Wolverine is Canadian, etc.
Nah. It was more about disability Wolverine is Canadian
Nah. It's more of a general allegory encompassing all forms of minority groups and social outcasts. Different writers and editors choose which ones to highlight. For example, while the original Lee, Kirby 60s run--and Chris Claremont during the 70s--might have emphasized disabilities, through numerous stories like Days of Future Past, God Loves Man Kills, and New Mutants #45, Claremont during the 80s prioritized race and sexual orientation.
I definitely get that's the point, but the analogy breaks down when applied to characters like Rogue. Like there may be something there about how you can feel guilty about who you are because it "hurts" other people, but there are real world ways to give those people support and love without needing to "cure" them. Rogue doesn't have that option, there's not a found family that can make her not kill people when she touches them. There's something innately and indisputably dangerous about her, which is not a great feel to apply to any marginalized group.
I see that meme a lot in autism communities, and it seems to fit very well. Every time it's posted, it gets controversial between people with low support needs claiming that there's nothing wrong with us, and people with higher support needs, claiming that it's not wrong to seek a cure.
So Rogue is like Dean Pelton in this?
Gay doesn't even begin to cover it.
then maybe don't have one that literally kills people she touches, or is that some fucked up reference to aids?
This scene makes a lot more sense when you factor this in.
this scene ONLY makes sense when you factor that in.
Fun fact - in the comics Forge made a gun that strips away mutant powers, and the government tried to use in on Rogue (which, having absorbed Ms. Marvel, was much more of a threat than her version in the Fox movies) - but Storm, ignorant to the gun's purpose, took the bullet for her. After that, lamenting the loss of her powers became her entire personality for a while. Comics being comics eventually she got them back - but I think that she is still a bit salty about this, and it shows in that scene.
Refresh my memory. Was that when she got the mohawk haircut and started dressing like Grace Jones back-up dancers?
They were a year apart. the mohawk and costume change debuted first in #173 (1983) and Storm lost her powers in #185 (1984).
I'm salty you made fun of my favorite Storm fit, but that was hilariously accurate.
We don't need medicine, prescription glasses, clothes...
We are all perfect already.
No, it's more like "we don't need to change our skin colour or our sexuallity etc., we are perfect already."
That's definitely what they were going for. X-men had other jokes clearly indicating the comparison between the LGBTQ movement and being a mutant. The comparison doesn't work as well for kill everything she touches lady, though lol.
You're being downvoted, but that's exactly what Storm means by what she said.
Like when people would say they were going to "cure you of your urges" just because you were gay.
In the other girl's case though, if there were a way for her not to kill everyone she touches, I'm sure she'd love that.
On the other hand, trans people. They have a problem with how they were born, and if they want to change that it's nobody's business but theirs.
Yeah that line always bothered me as well. Rogue should have just pocked her. Yeah, feel how fine do you feel now
If Cyclops was in the room she could have just busted his visor.
We look at mutants and see cool powers, but mutants in the Marvel universe are first and foremost a hated minority. Storm wants to fight the very idea of the cure, because if the cure exists - mutants will be forced to take it. The poster boy of the cure in that movie was was Warren Worthington III, and he got one of the relatively good mutations (yes, it's physically visible, but it's not one of the grotesque ones) but his father still tried to force the cure on him.
It sucks for mutants like Rogue who really do want to get rid of their powers, but mutantkind as a whole does not have the luxury of allowing the cure to exist.
I liked the premise of the story, hopefully they can try it again in some capacity with a director that's not shit.
Brb, I need an Elden Ring character named Johnny Five-Dicks.
Online Storm stans will end you.
You can just say "Storm stans", the Internet part is assumed 😂
Nah, there is nothing wrong with Rogue. She just lives in a world where her evolutionary trait is frowned upon by society. If she was allowed to embrace her true self and kill indiscriminately she would be much happier. Even more so than giving up her genetic advantage.
It might be lonely for a time but we all know she eventually runs into someone who can neutralize her power.
Edit: looking online Rogue also gains full control over her powers in some instances.
Gentle reminder there's a kid who got the power to blow himself up. Once. And he used it. Her perspective on the evolutionary trait is positive because she got a good roll of the dice while those around her got significantly less lucky. She is able to restrain her power unlike instant death touch girl, she's able to use it multiple times unlike Bailey Hoskins, and her big struggle is she can't go murder psycho? Again I really think her perspective is positive because she's got significantly more control and usability out of her mutation.
Ok but shouldn't she just end this argument by grabbing Storm? Iirc, not only would she kill her or at least shut her up, she'd also take on her powers and get to be the weather goddess for awhile. Be nice to see what someone with her emotional damage did with that. Would it be "You get a tornado! You get a tornado! Everyone gets a tornado!" Or "I'm just gonna send the rain to the starving drought-stricken children in Africa and let the sun shine rainbows on the Pride parade, I wanna bring joy for once in my fucked-up life! "
Yeah, rogue is the true master of adaptation. Comic book rogue even gets to keep their powers indefinitely, if she absorbs long enough. She has the potential to become the most powerful being in the marvel universe.
but like she clearly doesn't want to kill people, what you're saying is effectively that people should be entirely determined by their genetics and have no say in the matter, which is.. rather fucked up?
it gets extra terrible when we remember that a significant chunk of humanity is born with evolutionary traits specifically evolved to help hunter-gatherer tribes, i don't think people with ADHD and autism want to be compared to someone who kills everyone she touches..
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