Are people on the left saying this?
The 2 things I've really not liked about biden is he
Continued trump era boarder policies significantly harming refugees.
Has doggedly supported israel in their current genocide campaign.
Other wise his admin has ranged from pretty good to business as usual. 1000% better than trump, but also with some glaring problems.
2 is huge, but you forgot that he busted the railroad union which directly led to ohio burning down
I'm no fan of Biden (though I did and will vote for him) but that's not what happened. He did not bust the unions, the 12 unions still exist. He broke a strike, which is the intended purpose of the Railway Labor Act of 1926.
The law he put before congress to force a resolution to the three year negotiation deadlock would have guaranteed the workers 7 days of sick leave per year (they wanted 15). It passed the House but the Senate knocked it down to 1 day, with a 14% immediate pay increase and an additional 25% over the next five years.
Biden continued negotiate for the unions to get the sick days. They don't all have them yet, but at this point 61% of the workers do have 4 short notice paid sick days with the option to trade three personal days for an additional 3 short notice sick days. Negotiations are still happening, the Biden administration is still part of them.
The Ohio derailment disaster was not a result of worker error (or lack of sick days) but lack of maintenance regulations, which was not something that was being negotiated at that time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_railroad_labor_dispute
Beau of the Fifth Column, Let's Talk About Biden, the Rails and Sick days... Youtube link
If you want leftists to vote for dems, despite dems pissing on leftists at every possible chance and yelling at leftists to fall in line, I'll show you how.
Point out that voting will never, ever, ever move the democrat party to the left. You cannot vote the party harder to the left.
Point out that Republicans are going to remain fascists.
Point out that voting third party is a spoiler vote and will result in fascists winning.
Point out that the actual way to move to the left is to unionize and organize at the grassroots level, to apply bottom-up pressure on the top.
The answer is not to pretend that Biden is anything other than a Neoliberal Capitalist. Leftists will correctly point out that Biden is still a lukewarm neoliberal maintaining the status quo, and feel further alienated by being told they should love him anyways. That just encourages voter apathy.
"saved democracy in Europe"? i'd argue democracy works better here than in the US of A, and certainly not due to any US president
Saved from a Russian invasion. It's a bit exaggerated, but not entirely untrue I believe.
Europe has contributed more money than USA, so they can share a little less than half the credit.
It's basically the same deal as WW2 - sure, the USA has had a big impact - but Europe's not exactly shirked its share of the heavy lifting.
secured the border
What does that mean though. Concentration camps for undocumented People? Kids in cages? You think that's a good thing? People are dying in US camps, and you're presenting that as a 'haha gotcha liberals they DO kill migrants'
Fuck that.
Also genocide. Never forget that Biden is aiding and abetting a genocide. Don't fucking look away because he's your guy, motherfuckers
There's plenty to complain about, but the significant thing is that every one of those things that are complained about are specifically as bad or worse with his opposition. It would be different if any of it were "Biden aids Israel who is committing genocide, but Trump is against aid to Israel!" or "Biden keeps kids in cages at the border, but Trump would get the border handled more humanely!" Trump unequivocally supports Israel curb-stomping Palestine, and Trump made a lot of the changes that put kids in cages, and his rhetoric suggests he only plans on hitting immigrants harder.
But I get it, there is plenty to complain about with Biden, not least of which is aiding genocide. The meme, though, is concerning the argument that Biden has done nothing while in office, which is clearly not true.
Yup. He has put more immigrants behind bars in makeshift concentration camps than any other president. Inspirational stuff. And supporting genocide? Good old Amerikkkan values right there, some real 20th century stuff from this decrepit ghoul.
'But the other side is worse'
I'm fully aware that the other side is basically Trump, and Trump will be the end of democracy. A nightmare for everyone but a very select few. A totalitarian moron driven by the worst US politics has to offer. It will be the end of civil liberties.
But don't let Biden slither away with any of the shit he's pulling.
Is unemployment actually down, or is this just like number fudging from folks who work 3 part time jobs?
There's a LOT more homeless people than I remember ever seeing before.
Unemployment is measured as people who are eligible and looking for work but not employed. People who have left the workforce for reasons other than getting laid off/fired (like quitting to take care of a sick family member) or people who have given up looking for work are not counted, even if they want a job. It's measured by a CPS survey of 60,000 households, and I doubt it includes homeless people (or anyone without a permanent address).
I've heard the opposition party claim the unemployment is under-counted during the Obama, Trump, and Biden years by excluding job seekers who have given up on finding employment. That's probably true, but if it is it has probably been pretty consistently under-counted for decades by both parties.
Unemployment is a meaningless statistic due to the weird definition. The more useful statistic is #of jobs divided by total population, which peaked in 1970 and has been declining fairly consistently ever since
You missed:
So I don't disagree that we need to get less chosey and start voting for the lesser evil at the very least (not even american here bu the UK also has a choice between fuckwad A and B right now) But the bar for 'extreme leftists' has now gotten so low that depending on the company simply suggesting that we shouldn't leave people to die on the street will get you classified as 'extreme leftist'
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Don't forget:
🎶 Private property's inherently theft And neoliberal fascists are destroying the left And every politician, every cop on the street Protects the interests of the pedophilic corporate elite 🎶
Private property’s inherently theft
you okay, buddy?
every cop on the street Protects the interests of the pedophilic corporate elite
seriously, who hurt you?
Bruh it's lyrics to a Bo Burnham song.
With the jackass before him setting bar so low, Joe could have just redecorated the oval office and I'd have considered it a win. Its a bummer Doing The Job like a damn adult doesn't get enough ink ..
Jesus Christ I swear Biden supporters are starting to get as annoying as Trump supporters.
You can't criticize anything about their dear leader ot they come out of the woodwork to defend him.
Criticise Biden all you want. Just recognize despite your criticism, he is a better option than Trump in every way (and no, there is no third option).
If these are the only two options in our current system
1.) god help us
2.) let's tear down the system
I appreciate the bravery it takes to post something like this on Lemmy.
Lol saved democracy in Europe, if the rest is just as accurate then he indeed hasn't been very active in office
This doesn't even mention many of the infrastructure programs that help people directly - the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, American Rescue Plan Act, WIIN, WIFIA, and probably more that I don't know about. There is so much work in water lines and roads/bridges because of Biden.
More jobs than ever guys! Biden fixed the economy!!! And the Housing crisis. And student loans!
Ignore the people with 2-3 jobs, I'm sure those don't fuck up any stats there /s
Let's not forget he took over in Jan. 2021. Accelerating vaccine rollout was on his watch:
"With COVID-19 surging and vaccinations off to a slow start, President-elect Joe Biden will rapidly release most available vaccine doses to protect more people, his office said Friday, a reversal of Trump administration policies."
https://www.ajmc.com/view/a-timeline-of-covid-19-vaccine-developments-in-2021
You don't need to listen to far right nutjobs. They were never going to vote for any Democrat candidate.
You do need to listen to us far left "nutjobs" if you think you need our votes.
EDIT: Goddamn for a group that loves to call us "childish " moderates really don't appreciate being told they can't get what they want on their own and have to gasp cooperate with others.
Not that those who need to read them will, but I'm just going to leave these here:
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2022/08/22/american-democracy-was-never-designed-to-be-democratic
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/10/14/liberalism-and-fascism-partners-in-crime/
"far left nutjobs think joe biden hasn't done anything, check out this list of things that are either fake, symbolic, or terrible"
The problem is that centrists seem to actually think the following are 'good' things:
Enabling and supplying Israeli genocide
Bombing Yemen for trying to interfere with the Israeli genocide
Prevented negotiations in Ukraine
Over a million COVID deaths
Most active border concentration camps ever
I'm actually thrilled with Biden, I think he did a better job than I thought he would and regret calling him No Go Joe
"Low unemployment" isn't a useful metric when the minimum wage isn't enough to live on, and the implication that people should be grateful for "low unemployment" is insulting to people who work full time and still can't afford food and housing.
Its counterproductive to cite unemployment numbers when trying to rally support for current representatives, unless you can also show that wages are increasing.
Simply referring to the number of jobs that exist feels dismissive and alienating. Instead, you'd get a stronger propaganda effect by citing the number of GOOD jobs that exist - jobs that pay a living wage.
You do know that it’s the people demanding and fighting for those things right? Biden only did the minimum while ignoring the peoples actual needs. He answers to his sponsors and his sponsors only. He spent billions on Ukraine and Israel while ignoring the millions of Americans who are worse off now than they were 4-8 years ago. No one is denying what he did. We’re saying it wasn’t enough.
For the President of a 100 trillion dollar economy this isn't the list you think it is.
Even if it were just slap a dead gazan child on there and it is all rendered moot real quick.
Just FYI to a bunch of commenters here...complaining about something that he successfully did actually doesn't dispute the post showing all the stuff he did. If you're mad about how low insulin prices got you're proving the point.
Call me when he brings out the trust busting hammer. It's the one thing that touches on most of the problems in the US.
He needs to actually stand with Unions, actually bring the economy back for the working class, actually make homes and food affordable again.
The other shit is just dressing on the cake. Voters aren't going to vote for him unless he can do that. They might vote against the other guy, but -
Jobs that don't pay
A request to the police forces
A counselor the visits once a month
Killing some brown guy in a war we're all tired of
Lifted a ban the next GOP president is just going to put back
Stopped a pipeline the next GOP president is just going to send DHS agents to guard
And protected land the next GOP president is going to unprotect
And continuing Trump's abuses of refugees, more efficiently....
Ain't gonna fucking do it. These aren't the things we care about. We want to put food on the table for our families.
Not sure who you think The Left™ is but we're mostly angry about him supporting genocide. I guess because he did so those good things we should just ignore that?
Imagine being 'murican – their tiny little brains can't comprehend anything left of center.
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