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Jesus Christ I swear Biden supporters are starting to get as annoying as Trump supporters.
You can't criticize anything about their dear leader ot they come out of the woodwork to defend him.
Criticise Biden all you want. Just recognize despite your criticism, he is a better option than Trump in every way (and no, there is no third option).
If these are the only two options in our current system
1.) god help us
2.) let's tear down the system
Unless class conciousness forms in America tearing the system down would result in a mad max hell scape and probably the end of of the human race because of the acceleration to climate change.
If anything climate change would decelerate from the collapse of the system though. I mean, you saw that air quality, pollution indexes, etc have all improved during the lockdowns right? There's a reason pollution is used to measure how the economy is doing in countries that aren't honest about it (where usually less emissions = worse economy)
Don't need to throw out the whole system. Even just ranked choice voting and getting rid of the electoral college would massively improve the quality of our representation.
this like saying eating shit is a better option than starving. One is just slower, but it's still going to kill you.
Are you right that biden is better than trump? yes. Are you wrong in that, that is an argument for Biden? absolutely fucking wrong. that is an argument for-not-trump... of which there are hundreds of millions of people in the US that are both not-trump and eligible to president. there are at least "50 other democrats", per Your-Dear-Leader-Himself that can absolutely beat trump.
the question isn't if Biden is better than trump- we're still in the primaries. The question is, is Biden the best possible democrat candidate. to which that's an emphatic "Lol, no."
I seriously hope you've got better and more persuasive arguments than insults.
because, you know. I take insults to mean you don't. Also, calling people stupid is... literally right out of Trump's playbook.
I mean so who's better than biden at this stage? I wish there was but I can't think of anyone
We could have had Bernie but the dems didn't want some one too progressive as president.
then that is a failure of your imagination.
There are numerous options, any one of which- with Biden's support- prove to be a far more popular and viable candidate. or did you think "Blue no matter who" only applies to centrists? Warren, Klobechar, AOC, Buttigieg, Even bernie, Phillips. Newsom. Probably, any candidate more progressive than a stick in the mud would have a better chance than Biden winning.
Exhibit A
If we can't criticize our guy, how is that a functioning democracy? I don't approve of him but since when did my approval matter when it came to my vote?
You've seen posts from Trump supporters containing verifiable facts?
Where's that unicorn hiding?
May I ask you: then why are you here, in !politicalmemes@lemmy.world, if you do not enjoy the back-and-forth of political discourse? I was ecstatic when Lemmy 0.19 arrived and I could finally block Hexbear, and just now I blocked all of Lemmygrad as well, rather than start that whole process again of dealing with toxic commenters.
Granted, the Fediverse makes it difficult by showing everything by default, thereby putting the onus on you to have to block what you do not want to see, but if you blocked this community then you wouldn't have to see such things ever again? Maybe that's a note for the future development where some communities could be made to be opt-in rather than visible to everyone by default.
This is a legitimate question btw, fwiw.
Yeah no, I'm allowed to criticize Biden as much as I want. If you don't want to hear any criticism of your favorite candidate then just ignore it.
I am 100% fine with criticizing Biden btw:-P. In fact, I outright want to hear how he has messed up, even though at the same time I also want to hear how he has done well. But anyway, if you get too annoying then I will block you, and vice versa, message received loud and clear! (you don't want to limit yourself, you just want everyone else to do so for your sake, got it! :-D)
It would be great if they actually defended him. But they usually just scream abuse at anyone who doesn't worship him.