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[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 55 points 10 months ago

Criticise Biden all you want. Just recognize despite your criticism, he is a better option than Trump in every way (and no, there is no third option).

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 25 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If these are the only two options in our current system

1.) god help us

2.) let's tear down the system

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Unless class conciousness forms in America tearing the system down would result in a mad max hell scape and probably the end of of the human race because of the acceleration to climate change.

[-] EuroNutellaMan@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

If anything climate change would decelerate from the collapse of the system though. I mean, you saw that air quality, pollution indexes, etc have all improved during the lockdowns right? There's a reason pollution is used to measure how the economy is doing in countries that aren't honest about it (where usually less emissions = worse economy)

[-] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Don't need to throw out the whole system. Even just ranked choice voting and getting rid of the electoral college would massively improve the quality of our representation.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

this like saying eating shit is a better option than starving. One is just slower, but it's still going to kill you.

Are you right that biden is better than trump? yes. Are you wrong in that, that is an argument for Biden? absolutely fucking wrong. that is an argument for-not-trump... of which there are hundreds of millions of people in the US that are both not-trump and eligible to president. there are at least "50 other democrats", per Your-Dear-Leader-Himself that can absolutely beat trump.

the question isn't if Biden is better than trump- we're still in the primaries. The question is, is Biden the best possible democrat candidate. to which that's an emphatic "Lol, no."

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 months ago

I mean so who's better than biden at this stage? I wish there was but I can't think of anyone

[-] Dreadfighter23@sh.itjust.works 9 points 10 months ago

We could have had Bernie but the dems didn't want some one too progressive as president.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

then that is a failure of your imagination.

There are numerous options, any one of which- with Biden's support- prove to be a far more popular and viable candidate. or did you think "Blue no matter who" only applies to centrists? Warren, Klobechar, AOC, Buttigieg, Even bernie, Phillips. Newsom. Probably, any candidate more progressive than a stick in the mud would have a better chance than Biden winning.

[-] Muyal@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago
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