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[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You don't need to listen to far right nutjobs. They were never going to vote for any Democrat candidate.

You do need to listen to us far left "nutjobs" if you think you need our votes.

EDIT: Goddamn for a group that loves to call us "childish " moderates really don't appreciate being told they can't get what they want on their own and have to gasp cooperate with others.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That’s the problem with the far left. They let perfect be the enemy of progress. It really doesn’t need a second thought. The voting system is broken, third parties will never hold significant federal power until it’s fixed, and even then, itll probably not make a damn bit of difference because the far left can’t get over themselves long enough to reach a compromise. Hold your nose and quit with the infighting, and maybe something might get better.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago

That’s the problem with the far left.

Sorry I can't hear you over your procorporate trash candidate.

[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

How dare you have principles!

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

Right? All these people screaming about how the defense of democracy depends on me voting for someone I despise.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 points 10 months ago

There isn't leftward progress, just a steady liberal trend. Biden is great if you're a liberal, he's been doing exactly what he said he would, even if he hasn't gotten everything he wants done. But for an actual leftist? Jack shit to move America to Socialism.

The leftist reason to vote for Biden is because he isn't a fascist, that's it. Biden is still just a Capitalist and won't move America anywhere to the left. In case you haven't noticed, the far left have been holding their noses and voting liberal for as long as there's been leftists.

The actual way to move America to the left is pressure from grassroots movements like Unionization.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The ones that don’t hold their nose are the problem. We’d be in a different world if just 538 (more) of the 100k Florida Nader voters got over themselves and realized there was a pro-environment candidate that actually could’ve won had they just poked a different chad. Hope they enjoy their state falling into the ocean.

That’s the problem with our voting system. You can have ideals all you want but they are actively working against you if you’ve actually try to vote with them.

There won’t be any leftward progress as long as our government is made of a big-tent party (that includes the far left) that’s rife with infighting and a smaller party that doesn’t want anything but to distance themselves from the big party altogether that somehow manages to maintain enough power to achieve their goal of slowing them down.

[-] nbafantest@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

The far left are absolutely insane, literally the point of this post. Look at all he's done and you still get posts like this.

[-] go_go_gadget@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Buddy, call us whatever you want. Get yourself through the grief of people having a different life experience than you and then focus on what matters.

Do you need our votes or not?

[-] nbafantest@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Its funny seeing literally this post as a response

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

He's done exactly nothing to move America to the left. If someone is a leftist, they understandably want a leftist to represent them, correct? Just like liberals like yourself can be happy with what Biden has done as a liberal, leftists can be upset that he isn't moving anything leftward.

I say this as a leftist that never expected him to do anything at all and voted for him over Trump, leftward movement comes from pressure from below, not from federal elections anyways.

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