Wouldn't they be glad undocumented immigrants would be more likely to live in California and less likely to live in their state?

One can hope.

One small point: Undocumented immigrants absolutely do pay taxes. They pay sales taxes, gas taxes, and contribute billions annually in income taxes. It may be true that not all of them pay income taxes, but many of them do.

And not for nothin, but there are plenty of citizens who pay little or no taxes too. And if you're worried about people not paying their fair share of taxes, it's weird to focus on such an underprivileged group when our corporations and billionaires are almost the whole fuckin pie chart. It's not even close.

"we're not even covering our own citizens"

"We" already are. If by "we" you mean Californians.

Also what's the alternative here? ER's can't deny help based on insurance. So if an immigrant goes to the hospital, should the hospital foot the bill or should that be covered by the state?

Bringing homelessness, crime, and drugs into this is a false dichotomy. Those are separate issues. But hey if people aren't going broke from getting sick maybe homelessness, crime, and drug use may go down. If you're trying to fix those issues then health care should be top of your list anyway.

And like other comments have stated, they DO pay taxes.

And all that being said, when I need to go to the dentist, I go to Mexico because it's cheaper even with health insurance here.

California is trying to set up a single payer healthcare system. This is not a case of California calling it quits and not bothering to try to cover everyone.

Are you a California voter? If you are, youre asking a very good question. If you’re not, well, there’s no we involved, this is a state funded program, and the state of California actually pays more in to the federal government than it receives from it, so it can prop up freeloading red states, primarily the south. So, as a non Californian, not my circus, not my monkeys.

All of that said, I agree with you, American citizens should benefit from American tax dollars before anyone else.

Immigrants are part of any economy that flourishes. Always has been. Egypt, Rome, France, England all had a high population of immigration. It's to be expected with the world's six largest economy (even bigger than Russia's) there is a need for those doing these sorts of jobs to be taken care of.

As others have pointed out, they do pay taxes. They do live here. Health care should be a human right. Not a bargaining chip. The fact that universal health care isn't even considered an option for the US is ridiculous.

I think it's because it's ultimately cheaper to cover them than to let them go to the emergency room and have to pay exorbitant prices on the back end. That's a guess though.

What makes you think Medi-Cal isn't available for California citizens?

California has a huge labor shortage. It is extraordinarily expensive to live near any major population center. Agriculture is a huge industry, but many service, hospitality industries, etc. still need and require people living near big areas where the average housing price is 500k+ (this is including 1-2 commute to achieve that price excluding our high gasoline costs)

Who the fuck can sustainably work at or near minimum wage with those costs, paying full taxes.

This is an attempt at a labor policy that keeps all tech people happy they get can go out to dinner on Tuesday night.

You can get subsidized insurance through https://coveredca.com/ or free Medi-cal.

Well, that's all what the article says, it just doesn't fit in the headline. It does identify that the eligibility criteria are removed by specifying all.

No, CA does not have a public option… unless you consider things like Medicaid.

That said, many are pushing for single payer, and in October Newsom signed a bill that tries to resurrect the push for single payer.

Must be very recent because I was without insurance due to cost back when I lived in california just a few months ago. Moved to china for obvious reasons

Emergency rooms are required to try and stabilize patients before they discharge them. These patients are billed after they leave the hospital, insured or not.

If I try to schedule a checkup or procedure, I need to give my insurance card first. Uninsured can pay for a flat fee upfront. If they can't pay, they get no service.

With insurance, things get complicated. The facility will try to give you an estimated cost of the service. But it's always a back and forth with 2 or 3 parties; the insurance, facility, and doctor network. If there is a disagreement between parties, you the patient get a bigger bill. Even when you payed for the procedure beforehand.

What's insane about it? Undocumented immigrants deserve healthcare too, and we should all expect public healthcare in a general sense.

What's insane is how California can provide medical care to illegal immigrants but red states can't even provide it for their citizens.

Kind of put things into perspective where's the better place to live. That's why California is so expensive while places like Oklahoma are not.

Supply and demand, lol.

Yeah "solve mental health" but no health insurance for those poors! Great idea!

Any other cliche TV quotes you want to throw out?

Think of undocumented as "The Gov't does not have a officially documented reason for why they are currently in the country" and not "The Gov't literally has no idea that this person exists."