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submitted 11 months ago by GutsBerserk@lemmy.world to c/games@lemmy.world

Epic Games plans to give away 17 free games during its annual holiday sale for the Epic Games Store, the company announced on Wednesday.

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[-] fuzzywombat@lemmy.world 101 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

PSA to everyone that has never played Destiny 2.

tldr; Epic is giving away Destiny 2: Legacy Collection. You'll have to give Bungie whole bunch more money if you really want to play. Don't give Bungie your hard earned money because Destiny 2 is now pay to win and they'll always try to screw you. Don't get sucked into this game and give this horrible company your money.

According to the article, Epic is giving away Destiny 2: Legacy Collection which contains The Witch Queen, Beyond Light, and Shadowkeep. If you've never played Destiny 2 and think this seems great because now you can start playing Destiny 2 for the first time. This isn't so. You'll still need to spend bunch of more money if you want access to seasonal content and they're really not an optional. Just when you thought you're done, you'll then have to buy the Dungeon content which isn't part of season pass. Oh by the way you can't just buy season pass with money. You have to purchase their premium currency and then buy season pass with that currency which means you'll always have a left over premium currency. This is definitely scammy and it's by design.

Destiny 2 is dystopian microtransaction hellscape. They've been adding layers of microtransactions for years and this is the result. If you want to see how bad it has gotten watch this video by Aztecross.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsIdPWB2_JA

[-] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago

Warframe is a free alternative to destiny , its in steam and runs on linux. For those looking for that type of game. There is a warframe community on lemmy too.

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[-] vivadanang@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Don’t give Bungie your hard earned money because Destiny 2 is now pay to win and they’ll always try to screw you. Don’t get sucked into this game and give this horrible company your money.

Bungie was given 1.2 BILLION to retain talent. They decided to fire 100 people going back to the Halo days.

That right there ended any money I'll ever give to Bungie.

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

i bought that game full price. 60 dollars

still better use of my money than black ops 4 was

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[-] De_Narm@lemmy.world 100 points 11 months ago

I won't support any store that sabotages Linux on purpose. Just earlier today I read a lame excuse for them to not support Linux with Fortnite despite only needing to click a single checkbox. Of course, it's easy not getting tempted since I don't have a windos system to begin with.

[-] silentknyght@lemmy.world 48 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Bad take.

I'll remind you that Steam needs SOME competition in order to actually get better, and I can't think of anyone else able to do it (Microsoft has kinda already tried and failed). Remember when Steam suddenly addressed long-standing issues with the client and storefront a couple years ago? That was because the EGS appeared.

I'll also remind young folks that the Internet was extremely negative regarding steam when it was new. Yes, I've been on Steam for 20+ years.

Tldr: EGS is fine. Relax.

Edit: clarity

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 26 points 11 months ago

Also a bad take. Competition is good, and a proper competitor to steam would benefit us all, but users don't have to support them just on the basis of them being competitors.

I agree "EGS is bad because I want only steam" is silly, but if it's a worse experience for the individual user or if they perceive it's involved in non consumer friendly practices, it's perfectly normal they are not supported.

[-] ours@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

I fully support a good competitor to Steam like GOG. It may be less convenient than Steam but it has one key feature that no other shop has: no DRM.

[-] 7112@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

This is the best way forward. If GOG had more games it would change the industry. More companies need to partner with them.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

GOG still has that niche of the "old games." Can't think of anywhere else I could get DOS games from my childhood that also come with patches and updates to make them work on modern systems.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Except that Valve revamped Steam loads of times before anyone else was even competing with them. The biggest was when The Orange Box launched and they had added better Friends support as well as literally all the community features and achievement systems. EGS didn't launch until 2018. Origin didn't launch until 2011.

[-] detalferous@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago

You aren't supporting them by accepting free games and then not using them. It costs them money to give them to you.

[-] Radicaldog@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

We found out in the Apple lawsuit that the games are fixed price for Epic, so you can download or not as you wish - individually you do not make their cost go up.

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[-] Matty_r@programming.dev 13 points 11 months ago

Not entirely true. You're giving them users and downloads to pad their stats.

[-] smeg@feddit.uk 6 points 11 months ago

I've seen this posted before, but how does that make their stats look good? Oh you've got X million users! And how much money did you make? Oh. So how many of your users have ever paid you any money? Oh.

I assume their logic is to give you free games so you get into the habit of looking at their storefront and going to their launcher to play your games in the hope that you'll start buying your games from there instead. I can't see how claiming the freebies but never giving them money helps them.

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[-] CatLikeLemming 11 points 11 months ago

No no, you don't get it. Windows has problems, but switching to Linux would be like leaving your home country because you don't like its political trends. Where's your OS patriotism? There's no need for Linux, because you can just keep using Windows and hope Microsoft ends up doing what's best for their ~~customers~~ products :)

I'm paraphrasing here, but that's an actual thing the CEO and founder of Epic Games posted on Twitter: https://nitter.net/timsweeneyepic/status/964284402741149698

[-] De_Narm@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

That's disguting on so many levels. Thanks for that bit of knowledge.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

not support Linux with Fortnite despite only needing to click a single checkbox

I'd love to see that, because my understanding is that the anticheat software that fortnite and others use requires pretty deep access to your system that linux either can't or won't give them

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[-] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

It's more than clicking a single box when they build. They will have to provide support for Linux systems, that's the real kicker. Also their anti cheat might not like Linux.

Not saying they shouldn't, it's ridiculous that they don't support Linux. But there are valid reasons.

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[-] Sabata11792@kbin.social 70 points 11 months ago

They can all be free, I'm still not touching your launcher.

[-] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

Same. I'd rather pay for my games than be bribed to use their launcher.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

I think there are alternative FOSS launchers that you can use if the issue is the launcher itself. On the deck I use Heroic, I think there are also for windows.

[-] Sabata11792@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago

It's the general business scumminess towards consumers. I want Epic to fail for it.

[-] LunchEnjoyer@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

In some ways, yes absolutely agreed. But on the other hand, love that they're going against Google Play Store atm, even won in court just now.

[-] Sabata11792@kbin.social 15 points 11 months ago

Evil fighting evil for more power. I'm not holding my breath for any meaningful positive changes.

[-] cottonmon@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Yep, only reason Epic sued Google is because they want more money. I think Tim Sweeney was even quoted that they'd make billions from it.

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[-] ram@bookwormstory.social 8 points 11 months ago

Playnite on Windows is the premiere experience for multilauncher support. Highly customizable, and it has a UX that's much better to lay-users than something like Gog Galaxy 2.0. Integrations are well QA'd and updated. It's wild that this was built as a FLOSS project because it's better than what billion dollar companies have done by a mile.

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[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Did someone say "bribes"? I take bribes!

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[-] Creat@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 11 months ago

There is no need to use their launcher, as there are open source alternatives. "legendary" is a tool that can download sand install games from epic, but it's command line only. Fortunately, there is also "heroic", which is a GUI for it and honestly a pretty good one. Can also handle GOG games.

They work well for me, haven't had epic's launcher installed in a very long time.

[-] DogWater@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

That's a neat fact I'm going to store away if I ever want to play a game from epic haha

[-] Nacktmull@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Look Epic, those are very nice presents but as I told you many times already, I am happily married to Steam and I plan to keep it that way. Please respect my decision and stop sending me gifts, it´s getting awkward and honestly you´re making an ass of yourself.

[-] darelik@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago
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[-] Shadywack@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Until Bungie gives me back the content I already paid for, that company can rot in hell. I feel for the devs who point stuff out to leadership and tell them exactly what they need to do to fix their reputation, but the leadership saying "player's still love us" means that piece of shit scumbag, Pete Parsons, can go get dry fucked by splintering balsa wood.

I won't play the Legacy Collection, not even when it's free. Fuck you, Bung-hole.

[-] Zahille7@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

I stopped playing way back during Forsaken, and even then I was getting soured on the game.

Then I found out they effectively deleted the first couple year's worth of content and I got pissed off for the community.

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[-] The_Cunt_of_Monte_Cristo@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

No thanks. We don't need a spyware on our systems.

[-] 13617@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago
[-] The_Cunt_of_Monte_Cristo@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Yes I am aware of that launcher but I don't want to support a shady company.

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[-] dalakkin@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Tbh I love Steam, but I think it's nice with a little competition. Definitely checking this out

[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago

Then go promote GOG or itch.io. Don't support companies with monopolistic behavior

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[-] quams69@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago
[-] GutsBerserk@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

I hope they give away AAA titles.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Usually a couple towards the end

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Destiny is free on all platforms. So this isn't anything

[-] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago

It has three expansions bundled with it. I've never played, but it's my understanding that these three expansions represent the initial must-buy content.

[-] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Ah of course. However I read recently that someone had the base gane and extra products but Bungie decided it wasn't making enough money so removed the base game and has gone a different route. Removing the players items and game data.

So I'd highly recommend nobody touch destiny with a barge pole. Bad consumer practice. Would prefer if they disappear from the gaming industry

[-] Alto@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

I vowed to never give them a dime after the $100 beta test that was Destiny 1 Year 1

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[-] avater@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Nice! Alan Wake 2 + the Remaster for 30 bucks seems like a great deal!

[-] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Alan Wake 2 is a masterpiece! Fuck Epic though, I pirated it and will buy it on sale on Steam whenever that happens.

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