[-] CatLikeLemming 3 points 2 days ago

may require command line and config files to do it

I'm comfortable enough with those, that shouldn't be an issue then. Thanks for the info!

[-] CatLikeLemming 2 points 2 days ago

Oh I didn't even consider the fact that I might need to pass through the iGPU. Thanks for pointing that out, will double check. Although it'd be very odd if TrueNAS struggled to do that, considering how many people use it and how many of those have some kind of self-hosted streaming service. But of course, always best to check anyways!

[-] CatLikeLemming 2 points 2 days ago

Very helpful, thank you! The CPU choice has had to be remade anyways as I have mentioned in other places in this thread.

Looking at the 5750GE it seems to be OEM-only, so I'm not sure where to reputably get my hands on that.

The 5700G looks very intriguing, it's only barely more expensive compared to the last price of the 4650G I saw. If I find nothing else, I'll probably go with that one then.

I am still concerned about wattage though, I struggled to find any regular CPUs with a notably lower TDP than 65W - although I'd honestly be most intrigued by what it draws at idle-ish, because if it's like a <5W difference there I wouldn't bother... but of course idle changes depending on the system so not like that can be properly listed anywhere.

Do you potentially also have any Intel suggestions? Other people here mentioned an AMD iGPU might cause problems with Jellyfin.

[-] CatLikeLemming 2 points 2 days ago

I run EXOS drives in the under-stair cupboard. They’re noisy but they’re not that bad.

I think anything described as "noisy" would be too much, especially considering the savings are decent but not huge.

I’ve not heard of AMD CPUs handling this under Linux at least.

I'll double check that then, just to be sure. Although I have noticed that, between me writing it down and now, the CPU is no longer available where I live, so I have to find a replacement either way.

[-] CatLikeLemming 4 points 2 days ago

You’re not using a CPU that most distributions support for hardware transcoding. You either need to use an Intel CPU with QuickSync or stick a discrete nvidia card in the box.

I see, I chose that one based on a recommendation from I believe the channel was called "Wolfgang's Channel". They make a lot of home lab content and showed the iGPU working fine for Plex, so I assumed it wasn't an issue.

Are you intent on building your own box?

Yeah pretty much, I think it sounds fun

Regarding disks Seagate EXOS are often cheaper than IronWolfs and have higher MTBF than even the Pro. Don’t ask me why they’re lower cost, for more bang.

As I mentioned in my post, apparently they're way louder since they're made for datacenters where noise is crazy anyways, and since I am planning to have the NAS in my hallway I'd like to avoid the datacenter vibe, even if a handful of drives won't cause quite that level of cacophony

[-] CatLikeLemming 3 points 2 days ago

I sadly can not. The old PC I'm scavenging from is incomplete and my current PC has a DDR5 motherboard. So the earliest point I can check them is once I've built the NAS since then I'd have a functioning PC here with DDR4 support.

[-] CatLikeLemming 3 points 2 days ago

Got it, thank you

[-] CatLikeLemming 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Is noise the most important prio? Would you spend money for this goal?

Not the most important, but it is an important factor. If I am not losing much otherwise, I'd like to keep it not louder than say, an idling fridge. I would spend some more for quieter drives and fans, since those are the biggest noise concerns.

How about power usage?

Absolutely important, power prices here are some of the highest globally.

How about price limitations?

I'd very much like to stay below 2000€, preferably below 1750€. Currently it's coming out at around 1600€.

When looking at harddisks, there is that performance issue called "CMR or SMR" (google it). Your ST8000NT001 seem fine performance-wise as the use CMR.

Yup, took that into account, but nonetheless thanks for mentioning it!

If you need really quiet ones, then maybe you want "desktop" harddisks. But many of them use SMR which limits their performance.

Doesn't need to be super quiet, just not disruptive, I'm planning on having the NAS in the hallway.

Most guides recommend Raidz2 currently. Do you use backups?

Raidz2 means there are two entire "unused" drives which would be quite painful for my budget. I am planning on renting around 1TB of rsync storage and throwing things like Immich's data on there. This is fine to me since I'd prefer one backup off-site anyways. Any of my jellyfin stuff can always be redownloaded as long as I keep a list of what I got somewhere else. Oh also I'm planning on getting all four drives at different stores and/or different times (at least a week or two in between) to reduce the chance of them failing all at once.

When buying SSDs, check for the "TBW" spec.

Noted

[-] CatLikeLemming 2 points 2 days ago

Prices fluctuate but last I checked it was around 1600€. Also, after posting this thread I re-checked the CPU and noticed that isn't even available in my region anymore apparently, so I'll have to find a suitable replacement there anyways.

[-] CatLikeLemming 2 points 2 days ago

A friend of mine had an unRAID NAS and moved that over to TrueNAS later after being bothered by the licensing costs, that's why I was looking into the latter more. I do know how to RTFM, so I think I should be fine on that? But maybe there's gonna be a huge negative surprise, I suppose I don't know that yet

[-] CatLikeLemming 4 points 2 days ago

How come? I've seen those recommended quite often.

[-] CatLikeLemming 3 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I thought about the RAM, but since I already have two 8GB sticks I decided not to bother. Couldn't even buy two more since I have no idea what those are exactly, there are no stickers on them, so I'd have to buy 32GB entirely which is like 80-120€.

And as you said, that can always be done later if I run into trouble :)

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submitted 3 days ago by CatLikeLemming to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

Hi! I've never built a NAS before and only one custom gaming PC, so I'd love if any of you more experienced folks could take a look at my parts selection and possibly suggest better options.

Of course first my use cases:

  • Nextcloud
  • Immich
  • Jellyfin
  • Possibly more, similar to the above

Planning on using Truenas with a Raidz (1? - 1 disk failure tolerance) and running most of my stuff in Docker containers. The amount of users will likely stay at or below 3, certainly at or below 5, so it doesn't need to handle that much.

Here's my parts list:

  • CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 Pro 4650G
    • iGPU, power efficient, AM4 so cheaper, performant enough (I think)
  • Case: Jonsbo N3
    • This is the component I started with, since I really like the form factor. It did limit my choice on motherboards heavily though.
  • Motherboard: Gigabyte A520I AC
    • I was trying to go for one with ECC memory support, but at least on pcpartpicker I struggled to find ones at this form factor supporting it. However from reading through Forum threads ECC isn't critically important for a more "casual" build like mine, just a nice-to-have.
  • Memory: Found about 16GB of DDR4 in my old pc, they worked before so I didn't bother looking at them in detail
    • Cheap
  • Storage:
    • OS: Western Digital Black SN770 1 TB M.2-2280
      • Where I live the 500GB version is actually more expensive
    • Cache: Samsung 870 Evo 500 GB
      • Cheap enough, although if I can combine this with the OS drive, then even better
    • Primary Storage: 4x Seagate IronWolf Pro 8TB (ST8000NT001)
      • I have to admit, I can't recall why I settled on these. 8TB seemed good for price-to-size and I didn't want the server ones despite them actually being cheaper because they're extremely loud apparently, but why Pro and not non-pro and why this exact model... I can't recall, I just remember having a headache that afternoon TwT

I realize I left out the cooler and psu as I don't think they're particularly relevant here, I can deal with those myself. Price-wise, I am going by German prices and parts availability. On any of the parts listed, or if I forgot anything else though, I would love advice on the quality of my decision and how to improve it, thanks <3

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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by CatLikeLemming to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world

I'm planning on setting up a nas/home server (primarily storage with some jellyfin and nextcloud and such mixed in) and since it is primarily for data storage I'd like to follow the data preservation rules of 3-2-1 backups. 3 copies on 2 mediums with 1 offsite - well actually I'm more trying to go for a 2-1 with 2 copies and one offsite, but that's besides the point. Now I'm wondering how to do the offsite backup properly.

My main goal would be to have an automatic system that does full system backups at a reasonable rate (I assume daily would be a bit much considering it's gonna be a few TB worth of HDDs which aren't exactly fast, but maybe weekly?) and then have 2-3 of those backups offsite at once as a sort of version control, if possible.

This has two components, the local upload system and the offsite storage provider. First the local system:

What is good software to encrypt the data before/while it's uploaded?

While I'd preferably upload the data to a provider I trust, accidents happen, and since they don't need to access the data, I'd prefer them not being able to, maliciously or not, so what is a good way to encrypt the data before it leaves my system?

What is a good way to upload the data?

After it has been encrypted, it needs to be sent. Is there any good software that can upload backups automatically on regular intervals? Maybe something that also handles the encryption part on the way?

Then there's the offsite storage provider. Personally I'd appreciate as many suggestions as possible, as there is of course no one size fits all, so if you've got good experiences with any, please do send their names. I'm basically just looking for network attached drives. I send my data to them, I leave it there and trust it stays there, and in case too many drives in my system fail for RAID-Z to handle, so 2, I'd like to be able to get the data off there after I've replaced my drives. That's all I really need from them.

For reference, this is gonna be my first NAS/Server/Anything of this sort. I realize it's mostly a regular computer and am familiar enough with Linux, so I can handle that basic stuff, but for the things you wouldn't do with a normal computer I am quite unfamiliar, so if any questions here seem dumb, I apologize. Thank you in advance for any information!

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AltA tumblr post by valeofftherails saying "Reblog if this would work on you" with an attached screenshot of three text messages that have been sent to the person taking the screenshot. They say "Sup u look mentally ill", "I think i want to take care of u", and "I have a cat btw".

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AltThe image contains three panels, all screenshots of what appears to be a talk show, containing subtitles. The host asks "Do you think Margaret Thatcher had girl power"?. The guest responds "Yes, of course.". The host follows up with "Do you think she effectively utilized girl power by funneling money into illegal paramilitary death squads in Northern Ireland?".

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Please rule (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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AltA thumbnail of a YouTube video showing an old white man in a suit next to the words "The left wants to take away your penis". Below it is a cropped 4chan post with a sad anime girl on the left side. The right side simply says "please".

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AltA post by cureltyserpent containing an excerpt from a book. The excerpt reads "Magnetic Dog Sisters were on the door that night, and I didn't relish trying to get out past them if things didn't work out. They were two meters tall and thin as greyhounds. One was black and the other white, but aside from that they were as nearly identical as cosmetic surgery could make them. They'd been lovers for years and were bad news in a tussle. I was never quite sure which one had originally been male.". The poster comments "Can't beleive [sic] the first characters described in classic cyberpunk fiction are lesbian (one trans) puppygirls with a sister kink".

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Fallacy Rule (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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(How do you do those little boxes that you can open for alt text?) Alt Text: A post by @leonard_ritter, showing an image of a roughly humanoid figure with a lot of red dots near the arms and legs, with another image presumably from a video game in which a female looking humanoid is shown, wearing armor that covers arms and legs, but only a bikini-like area near the torso region. The post says "our dwarven engineers came up with a new armor design protecting against the typical injuries sustained by warriors returning from battles in the netherworld".

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You rule (lemmy.blahaj.zone)
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nuclearspaceheater: You actually do need noble lineage to rightfully rule, but since lineage doesn't dilute, and given the historic sexual tendencies of people in power wrt [sic] their servants, eventually noble lineage spread wide enough that everyone had it and that's why democracy happened.

argumate: nice adds to list of theories that irritate everybody

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