Imma need a hardcore source for this. Not because I doubt it, but because I'd like to include it in an essay

And yet some are still defending it. The propaganda is strong.

I didn't but I guess thanks for keeping me informed. Also distracts me from my problems which are minor in comparison.

The one that I saw was early on, after Hamas attacked, the news reported the number of deaths from “the Hamas invasion”. After that, when Israel retaliated and started killing Palestinians, the news was reporting “the total number killed since the beginning of the Hamas invasion”. They lumped all of the deaths from both sides together and framed it as if they were all attributed to Hamas, even though Israel had killed several times as many people by that point.

It's a double standard depending on who they're talking about.

Always has been, always.

I bet you feel enlightened with your centrist take.

I don't know if you realise but people can acknowledge that Hamas did bad things to civilians as well as Israel. The difference is some people can also acknowledge that the only reason Hamas exists is because Israel is a settler colonial state. Without Israel's crimes against humanity, there would be no need for Hamas to exist. People also have the ability to recognise the western media's attempt to falsely equivocate "both sides" when one is a genocidal attempt at an ethnostate backed by the most powerful nation the world has ever seen (and friends) and the other is a reaction to this.

“For forty years you try to strangle us. And then you criticize us for the way we breathe” ~ Fidel Castro.

In America, we citizens haven't had any significant question where we were presented with more than 2 options as long as i can remember.

Manufactured consent.

They actually have about 7,000 people in "administrative detention" which means people held without charges.

It's pretty easy. They basically keep them in cages.

Israel became worse than Hamas.

Have been since 1949. You know... long before Hamas even existed?

It's a settler colonial ethnostate lol. It's always been fundamentally fascist from the beginning.

And getting Jews out of Europe is doing exactly what the Nazis wanted.

The Imperialist countries, specially the US, have learnt nothing from history. They're literally funding a fascist genocide.

No, but we also don't bulldoze random houses in foreign territory and send our own settlers there to harass the locals until their children are radicalised.

AFAIK the thousands being held are being held by "administrative detention" which inherently does not have or require charges to be made.

Israel took more than a thousand detainees without any charges. A lot of them are women and children and they don't even necessarily come from Gaza.

And you should maybe think a bit less with aesthetics, why wouldn't the less beautiful women and girls be raped? It seems to me that you unjustly discriminate on who deserves the most pity.

There are laws and if you violate them, you get jailed.

hey, slavery is legal so obey the fucking law and don't fight for your freedom. after all, you wouldn't want to be labeled a criminal by slavers, now would you?

Ones a terrorist organisation and the other is meant to be a national state you fucking idiot.

That suggests that those jailed have been convicted or even sentenced for crimes. Look up administrative detention.

ah yes, the 7200 terrorists, including hundreds of child terrorists. the two and a half 9/11 deaths worth of terrorists

i'm sure most of those are legitimate imprisonments that aren't at all human rights violations, despite many of those people all not having any charges associated with their arrests. i'm sure the vastly unequal treatment of palestinians vs israelis that includes an indefinite time in captivity facing physical abuse and strip searches along with things like public and private gatherings of 10 or more people being illegal for specifically palestinians isn't anything to worry about

are we suppose to take the label "terrorist" serious when it comes to the israelis? just because israel labels someone a terrorist it doesn't make it true.

but i know your thought process. it is based on the false premisse that israel is not a terrorist state.

if israel arrests you on the charges of terrorism it doesn't make you a terrorist. it makes you an enemy to a "terrorist state". you can use terror and be a terrorist when fighting israel, but just because you get arrested by idf, it doesn't automatically makes you a terrorist, imho.