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submitted 1 year ago by Vlaxtocia to c/mtf

So originally I was sceptical about the TERF claims on rowling (because I didn't want them to be true), I'd assumed terminally online people had decided something silly (as has happened before), but the more I looked at it and thought about it, the more I thought, "Ok, I don't really have proof here, but the odds are looking pretty fucking likely that she is, surely it'd be quite easy for her to just say something publicly like "trans women are women" and it'd be all over".

The problem I'm having at the minute, is my wife still thinks that it's all probably something that's been blown out of proportion, and I can't explain to her why I'm not excited by the new Strike novel, or why I won't play the Harry Potter game. How do I prove to her that it isn't something that's been blown out of proportion and that Rowling really is a TERF

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[-] ChocolateTeapot@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

May I recommend Shaun's YouTube video: https://youtu.be/Ou_xvXJJk7k?si=Y1gdLj8D_MP2VolX he kinda puts it beyond reasonable doubt.

Also Contrapoints' WitchTrials: https://youtu.be/EmT0i0xG6zg?si=Y8mDHupp8xlC28vk and Lindsay Eliis' Death of the Author: https://youtu.be/NViZYL-U8s0?si=bkD5X10Nzv9tRsAF have background - and are very entertaining!

[-] Vlaxtocia 19 points 1 year ago

I'm 6 minutes in to Shaun's video and it's already beyond reasonable doubt lol, while I kind of want to explain this to her myself (because she's super busy atm, so a 20 minute video will be a hard sell) but I doubt I'd do as good a job so I think I'll just send her a link. Thank you very much for the links!

[-] thatsTheCatch@lemmy.nz 4 points 1 year ago

Shaun is fantastic!! I came here to share it if no one else had

[-] 2BearsHiFiving 30 points 1 year ago

For what it’s worth, the video game is terrible on its own merits, being essentially Anti-Semitism: the Videogame.

The goblins are a collection of anti-Semitic tropes, and the game explicitly makes putting down their rebellion for their own freedom as a good thing, where the “lesser-species” goblins deserve to be subjected by the human wizards.

So, there’s that as well.

[-] rustyspoon@beehaw.org 28 points 1 year ago

I'll put my copy-paste argument here:

She believes trans women aren't women. She believes trans women are only lying in order to get close to women and rape them. JK Rowling self identifies as a a TERF, or "Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist".

Rowling donates money to the LGB alliance a UK "charity" that actively lobbies against trans rights, and has fought for the continued legality of trans conversion therapy.

Rowling has tweeted out in support of one Maya Forstater, a woman who was fired and has become a martyr for intentionally misgendering trans people, and once again perpetuating the idea that trans men are rapists. Rowling keeps pushing the idea and propping up those who agree with her.

Rowling has posted to advertise for an online shop that sells, among other things, anti-trans merch. The store is ran by an Angela C. Wild, a founding member of "Get The L Out", an organization that has in its mission statement "We stand against any kind of misogynistic politics and systems that prioritise men’s interests: queer politics and transgenderism, right-wing politics, left-wing politics" etc.

Under the pen name Robert Galbraith (a name coincidentally shared by a 20th century proponent for conversion therapy), Rowling had published multiple transphobic books, writing one book about a serial killer who dresses as a woman to lure in unsuspecting victims, and another with a self insert character who is killed after "speaking out" against transsexuality.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. There's a great video that goes into much more detail than I have here about the causes she supports and the right-wing activists and think tanks she associates with and gives money to.

[-] rustyspoon@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I will say however, from experience, that there is basically a 1% chance any of this info would affect the opinion of somebody who supports her. But I would hope that your wife would be more willing to listen to you and consider your viewpoint.

It is admittedly difficult to argue that Rowling is transphobic. She's relatively careful with her own words and rarely does more than dog whistle. Instead you have to look at who she associates with and what causes she lends her massive finances to. And unfortunately, conservatives who are stuck in the "racism is when you say black people are bad" mindset, aren't going to be super receptive to an argument which rests on proving that JK Rowling's transphobia manifests primarily in her support of transphobic organizations and systems.

[-] squirrel 8 points 1 year ago

She’s relatively careful with her own words and rarely does more than dog whistle.

Not anymore. She is very much mask off nowadays.

[-] uriel238 7 points 1 year ago

I'd argue she's a TE. Rowling associates with and finances people whose positions are contrary to actual feminism.

[-] IcedCoffeeBitch@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Most TERFs don't have feminist point of views in the first place. Not only are tehir arguments against trans people inherently misogynistic (to cis people too!), in general most don't really show care towards other feminist issues.

[-] good_girl 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

fwiw maya forstater doesn't think trans men are rapists (like rowling, she probably thinks trans men are women who are misguided), it's just that she doesn't gender trans women correctly.

[-] backhdlp 1 points 1 year ago

Saving this for my horrible family

[-] ThatFembyWho 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

She doesn't like the term (most TERFs don't), but she promotes the exact same viewpoints as the most infamous TERFs. Namely that sex is biological, unchangeable, and defines your life in a way that supercedes gender... She claims to have "trans friends", and "support them", but how is that possible when she denies the essence of our identities??

She uses her massive platform to amplify TERF arguments and is something of an icon in anti-trans circles. She boosts stories that portray trans people in negative light. Which should tell you everything.

[-] 4am@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Indeed. Remember when she tweeted that trans people didn’t deserve rights in the UK because male prisoners could “just claim” to be women in order to get put into women’s prisons so they could rape indiscriminately?

[-] jlow@beehaw.org 11 points 1 year ago

The Mary Sue has covered Rowling's decent into a hateful person extensively, here's one article:

https://www.themarysue.com/jk-rowling-controversy-explained/

Oh, they have tags, amazing:

https://www.themarysue.com/tag/j-k-rowling/

[-] Slowy@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

If you pirate the game you can play it without supporting her if that’s something you want to do :)

[-] ada 3 points 1 year ago

That's still supporting her...

You might not be giving her money directly, but you are helping to keep her relevant...

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