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Rowing is a terf, how do I prove it? (self.mtf)
submitted 1 year ago by Vlaxtocia to c/mtf
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So originally I was sceptical about the TERF claims on rowling (because I didn't want them to be true), I'd assumed terminally online people had decided something silly (as has happened before), but the more I looked at it and thought about it, the more I thought, "Ok, I don't really have proof here, but the odds are looking pretty fucking likely that she is, surely it'd be quite easy for her to just say something publicly like "trans women are women" and it'd be all over".

The problem I'm having at the minute, is my wife still thinks that it's all probably something that's been blown out of proportion, and I can't explain to her why I'm not excited by the new Strike novel, or why I won't play the Harry Potter game. How do I prove to her that it isn't something that's been blown out of proportion and that Rowling really is a TERF

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[-] rustyspoon@beehaw.org 28 points 1 year ago

I'll put my copy-paste argument here:

She believes trans women aren't women. She believes trans women are only lying in order to get close to women and rape them. JK Rowling self identifies as a a TERF, or "Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminist".

Rowling donates money to the LGB alliance a UK "charity" that actively lobbies against trans rights, and has fought for the continued legality of trans conversion therapy.

Rowling has tweeted out in support of one Maya Forstater, a woman who was fired and has become a martyr for intentionally misgendering trans people, and once again perpetuating the idea that trans men are rapists. Rowling keeps pushing the idea and propping up those who agree with her.

Rowling has posted to advertise for an online shop that sells, among other things, anti-trans merch. The store is ran by an Angela C. Wild, a founding member of "Get The L Out", an organization that has in its mission statement "We stand against any kind of misogynistic politics and systems that prioritise men’s interests: queer politics and transgenderism, right-wing politics, left-wing politics" etc.

Under the pen name Robert Galbraith (a name coincidentally shared by a 20th century proponent for conversion therapy), Rowling had published multiple transphobic books, writing one book about a serial killer who dresses as a woman to lure in unsuspecting victims, and another with a self insert character who is killed after "speaking out" against transsexuality.

This is just the tip of the iceberg. There's a great video that goes into much more detail than I have here about the causes she supports and the right-wing activists and think tanks she associates with and gives money to.

[-] rustyspoon@beehaw.org 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I will say however, from experience, that there is basically a 1% chance any of this info would affect the opinion of somebody who supports her. But I would hope that your wife would be more willing to listen to you and consider your viewpoint.

It is admittedly difficult to argue that Rowling is transphobic. She's relatively careful with her own words and rarely does more than dog whistle. Instead you have to look at who she associates with and what causes she lends her massive finances to. And unfortunately, conservatives who are stuck in the "racism is when you say black people are bad" mindset, aren't going to be super receptive to an argument which rests on proving that JK Rowling's transphobia manifests primarily in her support of transphobic organizations and systems.

[-] squirrel 8 points 1 year ago

She’s relatively careful with her own words and rarely does more than dog whistle.

Not anymore. She is very much mask off nowadays.

[-] uriel238 7 points 1 year ago

I'd argue she's a TE. Rowling associates with and finances people whose positions are contrary to actual feminism.

[-] IcedCoffeeBitch@beehaw.org 1 points 1 year ago

Most TERFs don't have feminist point of views in the first place. Not only are tehir arguments against trans people inherently misogynistic (to cis people too!), in general most don't really show care towards other feminist issues.

[-] good_girl 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

fwiw maya forstater doesn't think trans men are rapists (like rowling, she probably thinks trans men are women who are misguided), it's just that she doesn't gender trans women correctly.

[-] backhdlp 1 points 1 year ago

Saving this for my horrible family

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