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Ohio voters just took firm positions on abortion and reproductive rights and adult-use recreational marijuana Tuesday, but gerrymandered Ohio lawmakers are already planning to flout, ignore, challenge, and abuse the voters’ wishes. This is what gerrymandering brings. This is why it’s a fundamental poison in the lifeblood of our republic.

Mere hours after Ohio voters passed the Issue 1 reproductive rights amendment with 56.62%, according to unofficial results, and the Issue 2 recreational marijuana law with 57% (both getting nearly 2.2 million votes), Ohio Republican legislative leaders signaled they would not respect the will of the people.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 105 points 1 year ago

Maybe this way the people learn that Republicans cannot be trusted with democratic decisions.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 70 points 1 year ago

Maybe this way the people learn that Republicans cannot be trusted.

FTFY.

[-] BossDj@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

When I lived in Arizona, I tried my best to inform people EVERY TIME the state Republicans fought back against voter initiatives (which was nearly every time).

They don't care. Arizonans even voted recently to make voter initiatives harder to pass

https://www.azcentral.com/elections/results/2022-11-08/state/arizona/

But at least they (barely) voted against the other bill Republicans put on the ballot: That their government be allowed to alter passed voter initiatives.

Fuck Republicans

[-] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Expecting republican voters to learn… I admire your optimism.

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[-] athos77@kbin.social 96 points 1 year ago

Like when the people of Florida clearly voted to restore voting rights to people who completed their time in the justice system, and Florida Republicans just said Nah. Fuck the Republicans.

[-] negativenull@lemm.ee 60 points 1 year ago

Or when Utah voted to legalize Marijuana (against the Mormon Church's wishes) and the Utah Republicans just said Nah.

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[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 69 points 1 year ago
[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Only if we let them. We all gotta vote or they'll fascism all over the place.

[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

I’m getting genuinely nervous that voting is not going to stop this one. With them lying and switching parties after being voted in, to the judicial system being completely corrupt and stacked, our window is closing fast. It needs to be legal to punch fascist in the face. Intolerance cannot be tolerated.

[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

They want you to feel like it's inevitable that they'll win. It isn't!

[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

No, I feel it’s inevitable that I will be in the middle of a civil war to forcibly push these fascist from our government. I will vote until I have to enact my second amendment rights.

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago
[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Your options are vote or give up and let them do whatever they want. You can be apathetic if you want but I'm not giving up.

[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

These are not the only options. If the representatives don't respect results of democratic vote, organize and go to the streets, protest, don't let them think you don't care!

[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Protesting without voting is just taking a loud walk. It's easy for politicians to ignore you if you don't ever show up at the polls. That would be like a bunch of people protesting outside a McDonald's because the food is unhealthy and then eating at that McDonald's for their lunch break. Definitely protest but back that protesting up with voting.

[-] angrystego@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Yes, I never meant protesting without voting. In this case people DID vote. But their decision is being ignored. I don't think the reasonable thing to do in such case is to wait peacefully for another election!

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[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Isn't this literally a post about how people voted and its going to be ignored anyway?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yep, it is. That's a nuance lost on the party soldiers itt though..

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Don't stop at voting. Volunteer to encourage others to vote. Get more involved in local politics. Run for local office.

[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I don't not have the time to run but I know my city council woman and I've had her sign in my yard twice now. As well as the school board members. They all won reelection this past Tuesday too. I've been thinking about becoming a precinct captain but I'm already kind of stretched thin.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ohio Republican legislative leaders signaled they would not respect the will of the people.

Have they ever?

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

When the people voted for them, sure

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[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Republicans want to rule, not represent

[-] wetnoodle@sopuli.xyz 61 points 1 year ago

I genuinely don't understand how a human could see what they do and think "oh yeah these guys are good, fuck those assholes that care about basic human rights"

[-] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 47 points 1 year ago

For some if it "owns the libs" it's good. Doesn't matter if it erodes democracy or not.

[-] Hairyblue@kbin.social 36 points 1 year ago

It's this. Many Republicans lack the ability of empathy for other people- especially for people different than them. They can not see things from both sides. They may wonder what happen to democracy when it is gone and be dumfounded when it is their rights being taken away.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Maybe they don't see people unlike them as fully human.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 48 points 1 year ago

Or when Florida passed an anti gerrymandering law and the governor just ignored the state Congress and resubmitted the illegal maps

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Oh did Florida also do it? Ohio’s illegal maps were struck down but they just sent the same ones until time ran out

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 11 points 1 year ago

Yep, for a while now actually. DeSantis just kind of... Ignored the map drawn according to the law and resubmitted the old one. And the sunshine law that requires everything that passes over a public officials desk to be made public, including meeting records and emails

I thought calling Republicans fascist was a little hyperbolic, or at least premature... But then I saw DeSantis blatantly ignore the law, fire elected officials for dutifully fulfilling campaign promises (specifically, by adopting a rehabilitation first stance on crime, which was showing great results), form an extra legal panel to push "anti woke" policies in schools, and gave police the right to take children they suspect might be brought out of state for gender affirming care (obviously not cis gender affirming care like prosthetic boots for men insecure about their height while running for president). Then there's the book burnings, unconstituional laws, attempting to impose government censorship on Disney, and of course multiple fun flavors of voter suppression

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

In all fairness his drag queen high heel boots made him to tall to read the law. He's such a Bitchy queen.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

I just want the rest of the country to understand how little of a say we have in our government in Ohio. They’re comfortable doing this with these margins because of how gerrymandered we are. Illegally so, but they just kept submitting the same map until the timer ran out

[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Disenfranchise voters with this one weird trick!

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Yeah frankly I’m angry that they weren’t held in contempt of court for the first attempt at that. That’s not a situation where any bullshit should be allowed. We were gerrymandered so hard we did a ballot initiative to ban gerrymandering specifically in the way that prevents legislature from changing or overturning it and the Republican state Supreme Court said it was blatantly illegal. And these absolute dictator wannabes just sent the same one. A clear statement of “we do not respect democracy and we will not accept the will of our state population.” No, that’s not a situation that gets a warning. That needs a “if you continue to play stupid games we will stop you”

That or send a third party to create a fair map and decide that the legislature has abdicated their right to create their map

[-] NataliePortland@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 year ago

I hope they try! The GOPs hard stance on this just keeps helping Dems at every turn. They’re digging their own graves

[-] Salamendacious@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

It's my hope that stories like this will motivate people to just vote them out.

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