Aren't they taking a loss on every AI operation? Like a big loss. So use enough, especially free versions, and you will drive them to bankruptcy. Lol
They can just make more money to keep the bubble from popping. There is a limit to that but how much damage to the environment will they do before that point?
I hate clankers as much as the next person, and providing money to war profiteering should obviously be avoided with great priority...
But really? This is a wild comparison on so many levels. There are ways to use AI ethically, and there are ways to use it unethically, amd blinding yourself to that conversation is willful ignorance.
This should be obvious.
Using AI to detect cancer early? Using AI to help find new beneficial medications? Using AI to advance materials science? Great! Things like these are absolutely what we need more of.
Using AI to steal massive amounts of content made by non-consenting parties and regurgitate for AI corp profits? Using corporate algorithms to manipulate output to generate results favoring corporate billionaire owners economically and politically? Using it to make sexual photos of non-consenting women and underage girls? Using it to find ways to deny coverage, strip more money from people, wage war, attack intelligence and discourse, and remove accountability for corporate owners? Fuck that.
Guess which ones the oligarchs prefer.
Well said! It's almost as if the conversation is being intentionally moved to 'YES AI' (sexy future times) vs 'NO AI (Luddite, dumb, regressive) instead of what every conversation is actually about, which is that morality should never be allowed to be determined by wealth.
I know lemmy has a big hard on for anti-AI but a few things here:
There are many legitimate criticisms against AI, especially generative models, but this ain't one
one of my specific issues is use of the word intelligence. exactly 0 of the "AI" built over the previous 60 years is "endowed with the faculty of understanding or reason"... it is false advertising at best and a scam if we're being honest.
if they called it "bag of words" processing or "computer that is pretty good at guessing what your taking about" i'd be less irritated when people laud it's accomplishments.
at the core, all of these technologies are signal processing and pattern recognition, nothing more.... no matter what musk, altman and the rest say there is no intelligence in there.
This is an issue of science in general, and MANY people take issue with naming conventions, even scientists themselves. Black holes aren't black and they aren't holes. The big bang didn't explode and there probably wasn't sound. The primordial soup didn't have chicken broth.
Unfortunately, that is exceedingly unlikely to change.
You are just using a very narrow definition of intelligence to mean exactly human-like intelligence. All intelligence is signal processing and pattern recognition. You can give LLM a novel task and it might complete it. Sometimes even well. Sure, you may argue it doesn't "understand" what's it's doing the way humans do (seemingly), but it's still intelligence of some kind.
Largely agree. AI isn't going away; the left needs to take a page out of Sanders and advocate instead for nationalizing and regulating instead.
Let's not confuse "the left" with whatever the current blind AI hate is.
I've literally been accused of being anti-human for trying to differentiate AI from the genuine harms it is being used for. There was one post where scientists had used a specialized LLM to create novel bacteriophages, and the comments were freaking out, claiming it was super-bugs and a new bioweapon...
Fascists didnt invent AI, Gen AI or LLMs. They are just using them, selling and making money with it.
Same with cars. Fascists didnt invent the car or EVs. They are just using them, selling and making money with it.
But you wouldnt call someone out for driving with their car to a antifascist protest, would you?
Is it a Tesla?
I hope not, I just mentioned EVs because it makes the comparison more striking
It is such a liberal thing to take a byproduct of capitalist exploitation and turn it into its own political expression
So no using guns either. Got it.
Sometimes I think these are righties just trying to limit the left's ability to push back.
PS the phone or pc you're using alongside the internet service in 99% of cases originates from inhumane and ostensibly fascist origins that rape the lands, use major server farms (data centers), and exploit cheap labor, and advances oligarchies. Better brick them, right..?
People figured out how to make statistical inferences smart enough to write kinda like humans and do a bunch of other things really really well. We would ignore them at our own peril.
Accepting their output as a replacement for human art and expression is another matter entirely.
Careful. If you start being too reasonable people might accuse you of using ad hominems.
TIL that technology can have political opinions.
In a war where losing means living under fascism and imperialism, where we fight for freedom and our very right to exist, we need to consider every tool at our disposal—even those used by our oppressors.
When they are willing to rig elections, run disinformation campaigns, and use violence and terror tactics on their own citizens, we can't afford to quibble over which tactics make us feel good. That's what it means to fight for our lives.
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