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With Reddit just announcing ai mods for sub reddits I think it’s finally time I fully give it up. I’ve been slowly trying to transition back into the fediverse but damn is it hard sometimes. Listen I have left leaning politics but does every other post have to be about some political shit on the all tab, I feel like I’m forced into this box that is my subscribed feed or I have to actively search out new communities because all is just a political circle jerk that I don’t care about. Not to mention the moment I came back I saw a fucking flow chart on the instances drama of the week. If I wasn’t so dedicated to dropping Reddit I think the average Joe would have left by now seeing all of this. And YES I have been trying to be the change I want to see if you check my profile I regularly post in meme subs non political just funny memes to be like “lmao” and people can move about their day. I’m not saying there ISNT other type of content on lemmy or piefed it just feels like the stuff that floats to the top is political

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[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 days ago

What you're missing is the algorithm.

You didn't want to see that on Reddit, and it's designed to steer away. Lemmy doesn't decide what you see. You have to curate your own feed through a long process of blocking users and communities and using subscribe rather than a steady diet of all.

[-] Cricket@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You can shape the All feed to your liking by blocking communities that regularly post stuff you don't like. I did this with meme communities and rarely see any memes anymore. Sometimes it's a whole instance that is full of communities you don't want to see, then you might want to block it. Examples of those for me are ani.social for sexualized anime and fedinsfw.app for NSFW content.

Once you do this kind of trimming, the All feed becomes a lot less annoying.

[-] LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 days ago

There's also no curated algorithm to cause that dopamine rush, that causes the addiction, so you want to scroll and hit those juicy dopamine posts, but without the manipulation designed to keep you engaged and stuck, not going to happen. So it's also a great place to detox from your brain being in the habit of seeking dopamine that way, it's like a slow lowering to the ground, instead of cold turkey.

I was really feeling the loss of those dopamine hits, when I first transitioned over here, but now I don't look for those hits here at all, and I can just enjoy a small scroll, without getting stuck in here, and put my phone down, which is nice.

What reddit and Facebook do, is hugely manipulative and created and curated to trap you there. I don't know if that needs to be the same here, as much. And maybe curating your home page, really is the way to go.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

I don't like how people talk about The Algorithm™ as though any feed algorithm is inherently a problem and exists to keep people trapped in the app.

I'd love to have an algorithm automatically curated my feed so I don't have to manually curate it, since the curation tools are so coarse.

[-] OpenStars@discuss.online 1 points 2 days ago

PieFed categories of communities do this, with user-customizable and shareable Feeds. Perhaps check out PieFed.ca - it has the same set of admins that you have now, and even without an account you can view these and then subscribe to those communities in your Lemmy one, see full list at https://piefed.ca/topics.

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[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can just curate your experience by making changes to the feed and shutting off what you feel are sources of distressing content.

Given the current state of affairs where if being a progressive American is a harrowing struggle, it's not surprising the fediverse is a refuge and outlet for angry progressives and people who have been alienated by spez's war on left-leaning content, as he will ban anyone even remotely or casually talking of committing violence on awful fascists and robber barons.

[-] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 13 points 2 days ago

You curate the content you see on your own, doesn't have to be political if you don't want to.

I suggest to use https://lemmyverse.net/ to find communities you like and keep the feed to subscribed, so you see them and them only.

this way, Lemmy is actually good, no algorithm, I choose what to see and that's a beautiful thing.

[-] meldrik@lemmy.wtf 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There’s lots of content on the Threadiverse that I find pointless or dumb, but that’s why I only subscribe to communities that interest me… If I feel like punishing myself, I go to /all 😂😁😘

[-] hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 99 points 4 days ago

Delete the All feed! It's just stupid. Subscribe to what you like. Maybe have a short glimpse at the All feed on a biweekly basis for 5min, but that's it.

[-] naught101@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago

I default to subscribed+scaled, and I check all+top 6-24 hours when I feel like staying on top of news. It works pretty well.

[-] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 25 points 4 days ago

How do you find what you like? I sew, and do dollhouse miniatures, but I haven't seen any of that on the fediverse yet.

[-] Wren@lemmy.today 24 points 4 days ago

Be the change you want to see.

For now you could post to !Art_Alchemist_Guild@lemmy.today which has a little bit of everything. I'd love to check out your projects.

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[-] otter@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Check out lemmyverse.net to find communities. If you set your home instance (top right, button with a home icon, enter slrpnk.net in your case), then it will open the page where you can subscribe directly. There's a longer guide here with more tips: https://fedecan.ca/en/guide/threadiverse/finding-communities

If you aren't sure what you want to subscribe to, there is a list pinned on !communitypromo@lemmy.ca ~~@blaze@piefed.zip had an amazing list of non-politics communities that unfortunately I can't seem to find right now.~~

Once Lemmy releases the big v1 update, both Lemmy and Piefed will have multi-communities that you can subscribe to in order to get a lot of similar content.

As for your requests specifically, check out these. Some are more relevant than others, and the small ones grow as interested people post to them:

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[-] ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

There's a couple ways to use Lemmy and make it nicer to use, one is curating a well fleshed out subscribed list, the other is using all but blocking every community that doesn't interest you or has topics you actively dislike, making it just as pleasant as your subscribed view.

Personally I do both. My subscribed view is just things I like and no news communities. My All feed blocks everything I don't like, let's me discover new communities, and gives me a dose of news when I want it.

[-] JTode@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago

I have always felt surrounded by right wing bullshit, on previous socials and in life.

This is the only place where I look around, and believe that it is people further to the left of me that are maybe taking things a bit far. I do NOT, for the record, agree with the apologists who want us to let more fash in, I like being in a place where I am, for once, the moderate.

[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The world is actively imploding. You desperately want to put your head in the sand, but you're bored down there, so you now want to pull your head out and have the rest of us maintain your childish illusion while you ignore objective reality. Grow up and scroll beyond posts you don't need

You're also showing yourself as confidently ignorant as you're angry, but also obviously aren't filtering certain communities or keywords that your sensitive eyes can't handle with your app. Again, grow up.

[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago

That's all you have are insults? Grow up.

[-] warmaster@lemmy.world 50 points 4 days ago

I believe you're somehow subsconciously expecting an algorithm to curate your feed.

On Lemmy that work is on you.

[-] eremophila@lemmy.zip 24 points 4 days ago

If you don't curate your own feed, the feed curates you, and then someone, somewhere, is going to have to clean that mess up sometime.

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[-] stopforgettingit@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I did a couple things to make my life comfy here.

I changed my default sort to be "new comments" - this gave me the biggest perspective change on Lemmy, I now see where the active conversations are and it makes the place feel more full of people and less pages and pages of empty threads. I also found a lot less political stuff this way, because it gets posted a lot but people only interact with just a few of the political posts, so only those one end up floating to the top. I am finding myself getting less politics this way on Lemmy than I was on reddit. Also has the added bonus of highlighting where the active communities are.

I blocked Lemmy.ml and hexbear. A lot of the wilder leftist stuff comes from them and once it was blocked I saw the amount of politics in my feed drop right away.

[-] Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

"New Comments" is underrated! Active is pretty good too. For my default I use Subscribed+Scaled so I don't miss anything, but if I'm looking for engagement I use New Comments or Active. The Hot sort kinda sucks on Lemmy lol, it's too similar to New. But OP is on PieFed, IDK how Hot is there, it uses different math.

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[-] vogi@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Love sorting by "new comments" I believe old message boards where also sorted like that on default? or maybe im misremembering. Sadly PieFed does not have that yet :(

I dont like that posts from 24h ago are already forgotten and you never really get a broader perspective on things because I think people (me included) don't bother commenting on stuff nobody will see as its not "Hot" anymore. I would love to see threads/posts being active for a longer time.

I also like piefeds "Active" algorithm. It does filter out alot of circle jerk content where there really is not much to talk about instead of agreeing.

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[-] Calibree@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Agreed. Wish there would be a political filter similar to the nsfw one. In that way you wouldn't have to isolate yourself to certain subs

[-] lautan@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago

Agreed. Too much politics. I started my own communities for things I'm interested in and I recommend you try that.

[-] roserose56@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

Tell me all about the political shit going on mate! I blocked them, keywords + communities. Lots of USA communities that never end but populate for no reason.

[-] aoidenpa@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Block politics and join femcelmemes.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 27 points 4 days ago

Yeah, no matter your political leanings, you gotta approach the fediverse in reverse of the way reddit worked. Reddit, you went and subbed to the things you were interested in and only went to the all feed if you wanted random discovert.

With lemmy, piefed and mbin (or kbin, whichever is still in use), you have to default to the all feed because there's only so much activity per community, which means discovery is much harder and your subscribed feed takes months sometimes to get filled in with useful things. It's more efficient and enjoyable to spend the time pruning out the non enjoyed stuff from the all feed so that you have access to more things overall.

That's helped by app that have filters. You can weed out a lot of bullshit just with keywords preventing specific topics coming up even in communities you are in.

The fediverse is more work on the user's part to make work. I don't consider that a bad thing overall, but it does make it hard for ex redditors (aka r/effugees) to on board, and can be confusing for total newcomers to threaded forums.

Tbh though, ten plus years ago, the initial reddit experience for a noob there was worse in many ways. Hell, outright hostile at times, if you were a noob that dared speak your mind against the zeitgeist of a given sub. At least here, you usually only run into that if you're not fairly solidly leftist, or try to hate on linux. That's much easier to deal with imo.

[-] Pamasich@kbin.earth 1 points 2 days ago

and mbin (or kbin, whichever is still in use)

It is Mbin that's still alive, yeah. Despite some instances still being named kbin, like the one I'm on, they're actually running Mbin.

[-] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Gotcha! I stay confused about it lol.

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[-] whoiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Lemmy was created because of Reddit censoring political content.

If you don’t wanna see political stuff go to a different website.

The above is not a value judgement. If I did not want to be exposed to the sun and the public then I wouldn’t go to a park. If I did not want to be exposed to loud car sounds and screaming fans I wouldn’t go to the racetrack. It’s okay that you don’t want to see political stuff (you should think critically about what you think is political and why). You don’t need to go to lemmy or any other fediverse thing. You can just be a Redditor.

lovingly, with approval and understanding go away.

[-] bilb@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I've been on lemmy since before it even federated, so I'm happy with the left-wing political and tech focused topics of discussion available.

That said, I don't think it's unreasonable to want to get away from monolithic social media and also want the sort of "non-political" content they are used to getting. There's no reason they can't do both, and I think we should encourage federated social media and direct people away from corporate social media at every opportunity. If people can comfortably get their memes and news and hobby discussions on the fediverse, that's only a good thing. Ownership of that needs to be taken away from Reddit.

[-] whoiswrongwithyou@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

They are used to getting “non-political” content because Reddit kicked out the “political” people and closed the “political” subs.

Going to the place that those people and communities now reside and complaining that everything feels “political” is ridiculous, but there might be good reasons why a person would do it, like you said.

You’re right that it’s not unreasonable to ask for what they’re asking for. That’s why I tried my god damnedest to clearly and kindly explain that this might not be the right place for them. Not everywhere needs to be for everyone. It’s not an insult to tell someone they’re looking for the library, this is the bus terminal.

Others are espousing different ways to harness the technology using blocks and a subscription feed. If someone believes that an alternative to corporate social media should be for everyone (an explicitly political belief!) then that will be borne out by successful block and sub use. The user might also not succeed at using those tools. In that case they don’t have to stay. They can recognize that they want the curated, “nonpolitical” experience of Reddit. I am not making a judgement of them for wanting that, only recommending they go and get what they want.

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[-] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 4 days ago

but does every other post have to be about some political shit on the all tab,

There's a reason it's called the "All" tab and not the "Some" tab, and even then it's mostly making an effort.

The fediverse stuff is already set on the tooling for that. Set your feed view away from All to, say, Subscribed, and block the stuff you don't like.

[-] SusanoStyle@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I’m forced into this box that is my subscribed feed or I have to actively search out new communities because all is just a political circle jerk that I don’t care about.

Come on, this is not a problem. It's a feature. As another user said in another reply, having a algorithm curating your feed ends up curating you. It's even easier here than on reddit since you can even block whole instances! Block the ones that have the most political communities and you will be fine.

I agree with you on one thing, the lack of content on topics that are not tech or political related. But that falls on us, the users. I hope more communities will continue to grow in the future.

Not to mention the moment I came back I saw a fucking flow chart on the instances drama of the week.

I don't know, for me at least, it has been pretty funny, especially these days. You enter fediverse@lemmy.world, see the big pinned thread that says "Don't whine", and then hundreds of people whining. It gives me a chuckle.

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[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Politics is kinda the default for lemmy.world, lemmy.hexbear, and lemmy.ml. If you don't want politics, join an alternate server rather than .world. Or, alternatively, start curating your list of communities to block the comms channels that provide politics. That latter option is kinda what I did.

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 15 points 4 days ago

I feel like I’m forced into this box that is my subscribed feed or I have to actively search out new communities

I don't feel that this is a problem. I don't ever use the All feed, because I specifically don't want to see all. There's a lot of garbage I don't care about out there.

I have been trying to be the change I want to see if you check my profile I regularly post in meme subs non political just funny memes to be like “lmao”

This is... a weird change you'd want to see. Usually people want to see more signal and less noise.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 4 days ago

At this point I think a lot of people, OP included, would tolerate plenty more noise as long as it isn't "everything sucks and you should be mad about it!"

Yeah, signal is better than noise, but the signal itself becomes noise when it's all so damn much doom and gloom and aggression and frustration and generally negative emotions. It's not healthy to constantly drink from the fire hose of "this is everything wrong with everything"

And as an aside, I find that the quality of conversation around a lot of the political "signal" has been slipping too.

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[-] rimu@piefed.social 14 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Hey, welcome back.

piefed.world hasn't really invested much into populating their Explore menu, to make finding communities easier.

I've just added a few feeds though, check out https://piefed.world/feeds

Also https://feddit.online/topics is an amazing directory of all the communities. It's a separate instance to piefed.world though so when you find good communities you'll need to manually copy their address into your piefed.world account. Or just move yourself to feddit.online...

[-] 4Robato@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I mean the decision you are doing of leaving reddit and joining the fediverse is a political one and people who joins here is not because there's more people or something like that so this means there's a bias in the community towards caring about this things, and it will be like this until the fediverse doesn't become the default (if it ever happens). So just take this into account, as people say, use less the all if that bothers you.

[-] TORFdot0@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

I really don’t see that many political posts in my subscribed feed and don’t see all that much on my Lemmy.world all feed either.

Most of my blocks have been just furry porn and the worst tankies on .ml

Lemmy.world is defederated from hexbear, Lemmygrad, and beehaw so maybe try blocking those instances if it’s too much for you

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