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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago

the issue is not whether it is normal. that's not even a therapist's concern. the issue is whether it's healthy. the perspective is skewed as well. a "normal" reaction to an extremely abnormal situation is by definition not normal. "normally" people aren't perpetually angry because they don't "normally" go through what you've been going through.

PTSD is a "normal" reaction to trauma. should people who suffer from devastating PTSD not seek help because it's a normal reaction? completely skewed way to look at it.

[-] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 5 points 17 hours ago

Yup. Also we only have op's perspective. So it may be as you said that they're having a normal reaction to an abnormal situation or they could be having an abnormal reaction (like explosive anger or constant anger) that they don't realize is very unhealthy for them bc their anger is understandable and justified and therefore op perceives it as normal and fine

Basically, life is complicated, we only have one perspective, and just bc something is understandable doesn't make it good or healthy

[-] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 14 points 22 hours ago

I have long covid which basically is completely debilitating, and my conservative parents STILL talk about "haha wasn't the pandemic silly. We really overreacted :P" meanwhile 4 million Americans are unable to work, and I've been to the ER twice because of something you have a 1/5 chance of getting from covid. Can't believe we were so hysterical about it guys 🤭

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Anger is not a productive emotion. It drains you, exhausts you. It doesn't help. Transform it into something cold and calculated, and use it to get metaphorical revenge.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 13 points 22 hours ago

Nah, this is bs.

Plenty of people are fueled by anger, motivated by anger, focus better when they're angry. Anger can already be cold and calculated, no transformation necessary.

But aside from all that, emotions don't have to be productive. They aren't productive or unproductive, they simply are. Emotions are largely involuntary reactions to our surroundings and circumstances, a lense that colors an individual's world. They're all valid, regardless of whether or not they're productive, and pointing out that "anger is not productive" makes you part of the problem the post is describing.

[-] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago

The word productive scares me sometimes.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

It's an obsession born out of capitalism. They want you focused on "productivity" because it makes the line go up. Sometimes you need to be unproductive.

[-] Reginald_T_Biter@lemmy.world 1 points 25 minutes ago

My thoughts exactly. Maybe I dont want to produce, maybe I want to sit on my ass and play Gothic 1 for 7 straight hours.

[-] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

Emotions have to be not damaging. When they are, you feel like shit and it reinforces the cycle of you feeling like shit. They are "valid" whatever that might mean, but they can absolutely wreck your entire shit up. So we learn to properly process them so that doesn't happen.
Your not recognizing that is actually part of the problem, you reinforce people being total wrecks, under the misguided veil of trying to appear helpful.

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

You missed my point completely, and are arguing something I'm not actually saying.

You don't help someone process an intense emotion by telling them their emotion isn't helpful. That's the whole point of the post.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Yeah, I got so angry at AI slop code that I started doing research for a video essay, and found the original form of AI coding, in the 60's and 70's. It's called "natural language programming", and it's the reason why SQL's syntax looks ass.

[-] Draegur@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 day ago

I want to hug OOP so bad ;_; COVID took my dad from us and yeah, it was like that. I want to listen to OOP tell me everything on their mind about their mom... without judging them. Without questioning them. With only accepting them and commiserating. Fuck this timeline and the world we built in it...

[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Your therapist is garbage & needs to be fired.

[-] harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Just kill every moron until the population drop below the levels required to sustain a pandemit.

[-] AlteredEgo@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

To be fair (lol) how can therapy work in an insane and unjust society? Shouldn't your therapist advice you to join the fascist party since your white and cis anyway, it's better for your mental health (lol). Here are some pills to make you forget, the alternative is joining the resistance and fighting and likely dying (which is definitely suicidal)

EDIT: Just to be clear, I'm being very sarcastic here, there are always productive things you can do even in these times.

[-] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

Something like radical acceptance from dbt is my go to for someone with your argument. I can acknowledge injustice and also acknowledge that much of it is out of my control. I can work towards correcting injustice whenever possible but I also have to recognize that fixing everything is far beyond me. For my own mental health I need to be able to recognize when I am ruminating on an issue that cannot be fixed and learn to let go of that attachment to suffering

Alternatively I can be miserable, forever dwelling on injustices that I cannot fix myself. But how does that help change anything? Really would argue it’s just giving the fascist party what they want. If “the resistance” is beaten and broken simply by business as usual then is that not great for them?

In a non political context think of an emergency veterinarian or ER doctor who got into the field because they truly care for animals/people. They undoubtedly will deal with unfair death, seeing the results of abuse, systemic failures about cost of care resulting in premature death or disability, etc. probably on a near daily basis if they live anywhere with people. Should they simply resign themselves to misery because of this cruel and harsh reality? Or should they find a way to let go of the attachments to the misery involved in these tasks so they can do their (very necessary) job that already desperately needs more of people like them

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[-] hyperencabulator@lemmy.today 13 points 1 day ago

This is a very valid feeling. But it doesn't sit well in the context of therapy. Like, this is individual therapy dealing with trauma from systemic problems. Like, if it's outside of my locus of control I can either let it affect me forever or try to do something about it, even if that something is letting go (or even forgiving, as far-fetched as that ideal seems these days). Part of going to therapy is taking agency. There is a problem, in some small way I will do whatever I can about it.

I can't just be mad with this and raise my mental pitchfork bc this is an illustration of someone rightfully truly struggling and their mental health physician pointing them towards the painful way out. I think the takeaway is less "how could anyone expect anyone to get over anything this heinous" and more one of horrible feeling of trying to hold onto the one thing you're left with when someone is taken from you like that --anger-- and coming to terms with the fact that that anger is still hurting you long after. Your therapist is not going to start the revolution or the purge for you. They are literally there to help you and you alone with things that trouble you and you alone. When they talk to survivors of abuse as children, rape victims, they aren't going to go out and slay the offenders, even if they want to. They are just trying to work with the tiniest amount of control a victim still has after the crime to help the victims make real change for themselves.

I guess overall it might not be productive to take that private struggle and put it out to your tumblr mutuals to validate you and build resistance to letting go but Idk. Healing can take many forms.

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[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

The worst part about things like this is when you try to have a conversation like this with your average friend/coworker/acquaintance/etc. they're all like, "calm down; you're overreacting". I'm like, "no, fuck you; you're underreacting! People DIED."

Has anyone else over the age of 35 notice a major shift the past couple of decades regarding how little people care about literally anything? It's like humanity as a whole have turned into emotional zombies. You can't even say hi to strangers in public anymore. They just stare at you like, "who are you and why the fuck are you talking to me"? It's so bizarre compared to how people used to be in the 90s and 2000s. Nobody even wants to make eye contact with anyone anymore, let alone wave as you pass each other down the street. Not unless you're someone they know.

It's as if people forgot how to communicate with each other outside of the internet... Is it just me? Maybe I just have a bitchy resting face. IDK. But anyway this YT Short perfectly exemplifies exactly want I mean. (Piped link)

[-] themaninblack@lemmy.world 2 points 21 hours ago

This is by far the most crazy transition that has happened in my lifetime. And I remember being asked “smoking or non smoking?”

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[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 18 points 1 day ago

I am really tired of being emotional being an insult when its a major point of humanity.

[-] PacketPilgrim@thelemmy.club 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The problem is there's no accountability anywhere. I'm a bit older so for me it's been 9/11, Iraq with WMD lies, Afghanistan Taliban replaced by the Taliban, Arming the Latin Cartels, Panama Papers, COVID, Epstein Files, Bailouts for Wallstreet, there are more for sure but nobody is ever held to account for anything. The bigger the lie the bigger the corruption the more it just gets swept away like nothing happened. It causes you to lose faith in your country and die a little inside each time. So I get it.

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