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[-] 0ndead@infosec.pub 270 points 1 month ago

lol what a load of bullshit

[-] zzffyfajzkzhnsweqm@sh.itjust.works 48 points 1 month ago

Happened to me... Except that before last step I quit.

[-] Big_Boss_77@lemmy.world 82 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Left a job of 10 years, project lead senior engineer, because fuckers FAFO'd an RTO. Of a team of 5, I was one they expected to stay because I was "close to the office". I was the first one to find a new, full time remote job.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[-] Mac@mander.xyz 18 points 1 month ago

AI bullshit!

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[-] Boozilla@sh.itjust.works 160 points 1 month ago

Whoever came up with this has probably always used 'optics first, actual results last' in their shitty career so far.

[-] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago

Considering this was made with AI, yes, absolutely

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[-] soratoyuki@piefed.zip 122 points 1 month ago

Not having a conversation with my supervisor for months at a time is literally the dream.

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[-] Vanth@reddthat.com 115 points 1 month ago

Promoted twice since I last saw my boss in person. I asked him if would see any issue himself or for the company if I relocated myself back across the country closer to family; he was confused as to why I even asked.

He's not even a particularly good boss in most ways, but tons of people want to work for him because he stays the fuck out of their way.

[-] hayvan@piefed.world 112 points 1 month ago

he stays the fuck out of their way.

That's like, 70% of good management.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 34 points 1 month ago

Another 20% is keeping everyone else out of the way too.

[-] TaterTot@piefed.social 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Honestly, this is the real underrated trick. A great manager removes blockers. Their job is first and foremost to get shit off the train tracks.

[-] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 22 points 1 month ago

I had a manager who wanted to know what we did. Understand it. Really get into the info, because only then could she really lead us, she thought.

Worst manager I had for a long while. She didn't understand anything and was easily annoyed by it. We were software engineers, she some media marketing whatever person. That ain't gonna happen.

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 10 points 1 month ago

Yeah. The one time you actually need a manager is when you have some fuck-up of a coworker who's making things worse for everybody.

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[-] DJKJuicy@sh.itjust.works 112 points 1 month ago

The secret to this is not believing in the promotion fairy.

If you want a promotion, apply for it at another company. If you get it, awesome, if you don't, try at a 3rd company.

At my current job, the agreement is I do the job you hired me for, and you give me the money and benefits we agreed upon.

[-] NekoKoneko@lemmy.world 83 points 1 month ago

All I see reading this is that managers and CEOs have never reached the object permanence phase of brain development, and need to be constantly visually reminded their employees exist or they'll never promote them regardless of the work they do.

But then, I guess no manager of a multi-office company has had a team member in another location prior to COVID, so how could they possibly have planned for what to do in that situation.

[-] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 22 points 1 month ago

My takeaway is that internal promotions aren't based on merit and you gotta schmooze.

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[-] mabeledo@lemmy.world 63 points 1 month ago

Love it when they state so clearly that promotions are a byproduct of office politics, not actual work performance.

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[-] nulluser@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Year 1: "incredibly productive"

Year 5: "not about the work"

I love how they freely admit that it has nothing to do with being good at your job and everything to do with schmoozing.

Like that's really the purpose of the company... manufacturing schmooze, so we need good schmoozers

[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Well ok then, in their own words, managers are incompotent morons who lack object permanence and have no idea how to gauge the usefulness or productivity or worth of any employee... without being able to invade their personal space and randomly question them.

Replace them with LLMs, LLMs would do a better job, these people don't deserve to be paid anything, they do literally nothing useful that a hopped up autocomplete algorithm can't do to the same effectiveness.

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[-] sludgewife 42 points 1 month ago

nobody connects to it the four days

WHAT THE FUCK ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT I HATE THIS WORLD

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[-] charonn0@startrek.website 39 points 1 month ago

I find it interesting how "the promotion" is an end in itself. No context, no details, just "the promotion". And you didn't get it! Tsk, tsk, tsk.

[-] Birch@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

Of course, because promotion is the only way to get ahead, by taking on more responsibilities and managing other people, god forbid you'd get a raise just for being really good at what you do.

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[-] stumu415@lemmy.zip 37 points 1 month ago

LinkedIn is such wanker filled trash

[-] andyburke@fedia.io 36 points 1 month ago

Ah ... a participation trophy based business strategy.

Don't to to the office. People who think up shit like the above are there.

[-] belunos@lemmus.org 34 points 1 month ago

I've been wfh for like a year now and just got promoted to cloud engineer. I'm good, thanks

[-] morto@piefed.social 22 points 1 month ago

No, you shouldn't feel good. Just think about the promotionest promotional promotion you would get promoted into if you you showed up in person! Someone out there got it instead!

/s just in case

[-] riskable@programming.dev 11 points 1 month ago

So... You still working on rain or have you been promoted to snow?

Wait: You're not one of those sleet people, are you?

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[-] trem 33 points 1 month ago

With the comic style plagiarized here, I fully expected throwing a baby to be one of the steps...

Artwork from cartoonist Joan Cornellà, where a woman throws a baby like she's trying to score in basketball.

[-] sunsofold@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 month ago

It's real, but it frames it as though it's the employees fault for not doing self-promotion rather than the manager's fault for not keeping track of all the team members it's his job to support.

[-] VoodooAardvark@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 month ago

100% shitty management - remote workers force managers to do more than just float around an office having hallway conversations.

[-] AmyAye@nord.pub 28 points 1 month ago

"You got the promotion, yet somehow your quality of life is shittier because you are spending 1/4th of your net pay on gas and eating out and child care and you had to get rid of your dog because you are not around enough to properly handle an animal, plus you have 10 hours less free time during the week because of your commute."

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 14 points 1 month ago

And let's be fair, no one is getting the promotion.

[-] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 28 points 1 month ago

Do companies even still promote people? I've never seen major raises without having to switch jobs anywhere I've worked.

[-] lemmyng@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Because those employers are hoarding the money that would go towards a raise, only shoveling it into the maws of their CEOs and shareholders.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 month ago

They don't show the alternative where he spent the commuting time applying for jobs.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 26 points 1 month ago

Year 3: I get a new job that values my output instead of my physical location.

Year 4: I still laugh about the morons in managment.

[-] CaptainMan251@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

If it isn't about the work then TF is it about?

I go to work for MONEY. You pay to make you MONEY. For me to make you money, you need me to WORK

It is about the work.

Now pay me more

[-] _stranger_@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

It's about an AI generated sense of accomplishment.

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[-] KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 26 points 1 month ago

Year 3: From your home office, you spearhead multiple high level projects which triple the billable hours of your department. You are not in the office enough to lick the asshole of your manager so Bob the intern gets the promotion. Bob will be paid entry level salary and really knows how to get the tongue deep in that brown hole.

Year 4: Enough is enough. You quit that stupid job and secure a job with a company that values performance based promotions and raises. No one knows anything about your projects and when you leave they whither on the vine.

Year 5: You run into Bob at the pub. He says management converted the office to AI and everyone got fired.

Year 6: You chuckle when you drive by that company you used to work for and find the building is now for lease and the company is in bankruptcy.

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I appreciate the admission that promotions have nothing to do with fitness or performance.

[-] cattywampas@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

I'll probably get downvoted, and your mileage may vary, but it's possible that being visible and in-person with your coworkers increases your chances of getting a raise or promotion.

In a perfect world it wouldn't make a difference if your performance is good in a remote position, but humans are not perfectly logical and rational creatures. There's going to be bias and emotion involved when it comes to giving promotions.

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[-] TemplaerDude@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 month ago

Jesus Christ, capitalists are fucking unhinged with their bullshit.

[-] solidus@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Got it. Show up to work so you can kiss your bosses ass often and in person so that they give you a promotion solely based on your in person ass licking.

Sounds to me like a broken system that promotes based on the wrong metrics....

[-] jaschen@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

I quit 2 jobs that had a RTO. One was Salesforce when they acquired Slack. The other was another software company that I still have an NDA with.

I'm never going back into the office. I rather make less money.

What's interesting is that I'm actually making more money doing remote because I don't need to commute or pay for lunches or happy hours anymore. Actual time spent at work calculated, I'm making 40% more $.

[-] CuddlyCassowary@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

I’ve been working remote-first since 1998, most of the time fully remote, and ended up at the C-suite level very quickly. Try to find companies who value competency or create one yourself (I know - easier said than done). This infographic is more about how to play a stupid game at a shitty company.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 18 points 1 month ago

Hahaha get fucked i've worked remote since 2015.

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[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 18 points 1 month ago

"slop on linkedin? better put the slop on lemmy too"

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 month ago

Year 1: incredibly productive

So if productivity is up why are we going up hybrid in the first place?

[-] froufox 12 points 1 month ago

year 3 is bullshit. you pick team days, and come all together

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[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

I imagine most of this is actually true for a lot of companies. Not because it's a good or even sensible model. Because most companies are mismanaged due to rampant nepotism, among many other issues.

What percantage of managers you've met had any idea what they're doing?

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