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small rant incoming

I work for a company that it's mostly hardware focused, but we do ship some software for the final consumer including drivers and programs, to make use of said hardware.

While I am not in the software department, I held some SWE positions in previous companies for over a decade, our software isn't very complex and I do know most of it pretty well.

Our employee just announced a new AI-only development cycle, they want all code submissions and reviews to be exclusively done by claude, effectively ending ownership of the code being shipped to customers. This is absolute madness.

Today, I received an email scheduling a workshop on how to integrate claude into vscode and how to work with the new gitflow, namely removing our authorship from commits and having al code reviews done by a LLM now.

I am just baffled at the decision.

edit: wow I'm a bit overwhelmed by the response, I did read all of you. Thanks!

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[-] Glytch@lemmy.world 16 points 20 hours ago

Time to start tokenmaxing and make this as costly a decision as possible

[-] SirEDCaLot@lemmy.today 7 points 17 hours ago

Time for some quality control and optimization.

Claude, take our codebase and generate a set of unit tests to evaluate the code functionality based on the current snapshot.
Now port this code to Rust and add comments describing how each function is different. Run the same set of unit tests to evaluate the new Rust code against the existing code. If any unit test fails by more than 0.01% remove the Rust code and regenerate it from scratch.
Evaluate both the current code and Rust code for readability and documentation. Generate full source documentation for each line of code.

etc etc. You'll have half a datacenter cranking for a week. They won't appreciate the bill...

[-] yakko@feddit.uk 1 points 6 hours ago

The attempt to imagine this with stock thinkmeat has left me insensate, emotionally bereft, and mildly insane.

[-] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 8 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Same seems to happen with some healthcare software in Germany. For example, Compu Group Medical is in the news for massively losing customers for bad software quality, and they have gone all-in on AI.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 3 points 19 hours ago

Myepic is used pervasively in US healthcare system, they likely use AI in some form. because the MDs use AI to write thier notes for sure.

[-] acchariya@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

Where I work the code quality is so bad LLMs were a net improvement

[-] neomachino@lemmy.dbzer0.com 86 points 1 day ago

I have a coworker who went full AI, and I think is actually losing it, like sees them as people. He was telling me he's been asking chatgpt for relationship advice and how I should use it to get advice on my relationships (my wife and I are fine because I prefer talking to her than the robots).

On Friday he was spamming me with "issues" that codex found with my PR. I think he sent over 20 bulletpoints. 1 of them was a small bug that would only apply in a way far out edge case but good to fix. The rest was absolute nonsense, or evidently not an issue if a huge read it and thought about the context.

I ignored him all day, but still had to take the time to read and verify everything. At 4pm he sends me a message asking me to fix the bugs or he can have codex fix them. I told him they were nonsense and not applicable, explained each one in simple terms, then 20 minutes later I got a message "codex said there's still these issue: <the same fucking list that he evidently didn't read>".

This has been going in for a while. I spend half my week fixing his AI slop that he genuinely thinks is gold. I swear 4 months ago he was a very solid developer, today I wouldn't trust him to write an HTML page.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It can happen to anyone.

I think the first documented cases were inside Google, from scientists who know exactly how they work:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/science/ai-consciousness-how-to-recognize-1.6498068

I seem to remember a debacle earlier than 2022, but can’t find it… but point is, I suspect its quite a human psychological vulnerability. So if they recover, I wouldn’t be too hard on your coworker.

[-] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 15 points 1 day ago

The first form of this was called ELIZA effect. In 1966.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Oh, interesting. TIL.

[-] groucho@retrolemmy.com 29 points 1 day ago

I spend half my week fixing his AI slop that he genuinely thinks is gold.

God I hate this. The sheer number of times I've heard "and I didn't even write a line of code" and I have to bite back the "yeah, I can fuckin' tell."

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago

That's really sad... That is worse than what I thought was annoying at my work today. Claude indicated something was an issue that has been "an issue" for years and never actually been an issue. It suggested over engineering the fuck out of something we just plainly don't need to do. I was annoyed we spent 10+ minutes talking about that. What you described is so much worse 😬

[-] treehugger6@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago

I was fired for pointing out dangers of AI and data centers. I would do it again

[-] Saledovil@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago
[-] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Unions solve this issue btw. Would love to see software development work more like carpentry or public works with a trade union and work hall than the current cult of personality or culture of staying at a single employer your entire life.

[-] lechekaflan@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because the goddamn suits think AI is going to make them more money, despite that it practically uses mined/stolen data and consumes more electricity than a small city.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 19 hours ago

a AI video consumes that much.

[-] cobysev@lemmy.world 114 points 1 day ago

I'm retired, so I don't have to deal with this AI garbage... but I have a friend who's a manager of a decent-sized office at an accounting firm.

He told me recently that, not only are all employees required to use AI in their daily work, but my friend has to write weekly reports to his bosses on how AI is improving workflow in the office. He's not allowed to say, "It's not." Only positive feedback. They need to justify its continued use, so he needs to find benefits to report to the higher-ups.

Sadly, he's the only one who doesn't like/use AI. Everyone else in his office has basically replaced their jobs with it. Every report that comes across his desk is AI nonsense, which he has to spend time fixing because his subordinates don't know how to write reports without AI assistance.

I do not envy my friend.

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 63 points 1 day ago

. He’s not allowed to say, “It’s not.” Only positive feedback. They need to justify its continued use, so he needs to find benefits to report to the higher-ups.

Those higher-ups should not be in charge.

This feels like the emperor's new clothes, except no one listens to the children pointing out the folly.

[-] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago

This feels like the emperor’s new clothes,

I guess it does not only feel like that. It's the same thing.

[-] crank0271@lemmy.world 48 points 1 day ago

my friend has to write weekly reports to his bosses on how AI is improving workflow in the office. He's not allowed to say, "It's not." Only positive feedback. They need to justify its continued use, so he needs to find benefits to report to the higher-ups.

All right Claude, you know the drill. Write this week's report.

[-] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 7 hours ago

AI is improving workflow in the office by writing these reports for me so I can do actual work.

[-] one_old_coder@piefed.social 26 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

CLAUDE.md:

- Write a weekly report on how AI is improving workflow in the office  
- Only positive feedback  
- MAKE NO MISTAKES!  
[-] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago
  • while you're at it, find new revenue streams
[-] No1@aussie.zone 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
  • Also, tell me which 5 employees to fire, so I can reduce costs and buy more tokens.
[-] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 32 points 1 day ago

my friend has to write weekly reports to his bosses on how AI is improving workflow in the office. He's not allowed to say, "It's not." Only positive feedback. They need to justify its continued use, so he needs to find benefits to report to the higher-ups.

"Please make us blind to all consequences!"

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[-] hayvan@piefed.world 133 points 1 day ago

That is going to be a glorious dumpster fire. You have my sincere sympathy.

Fork the repos that matter now, and squirrel them away somewhere, just in case someone gets froggy and gives Claude write access to your repos and fucks the history of something interesting like that. Always good to have a backup contingency.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

I'm of the opinion that companies that make stupid AI decisions so they can fire people shouldn't get bailed out by a good decision made by one of the people they're planning to fire.

Let them burn.

[-] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 2 points 21 hours ago

Corporate suicide by AI?

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[-] NM_Gringo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Sounds like someone doesn't know about how copyright works for AI code or any possible liability involved in distributing it. The walls will come tumbling down one of these days, then they'll turn to you to fix it.

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[-] one_old_coder@piefed.social 72 points 1 day ago

I've been looking for a job for the past 6 months. Every interview I had (more than 50) hinted that some Claude or Copilot was being used more and more. Some companies even want to hire "junior AI engineer." How the fuck can you hire a junior with a non-existing degree and that knows nothing about a technology so recent?

I found one and only one company who officially rejects AI, and I hope they'll hire me.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 19 hours ago

those companies likely use AI to screen out peoples AI resumes too.

[-] one_old_coder@piefed.social 1 points 19 hours ago

Absolutely. They first ask you to fill an "internal resume" that is automatically filled by AI from your PDF, then is it parsed by an "ATS grader" to give you good or bad grades (I've seen it done by a friend of mine). It allows HR to reject most people quickly without reading or doing any kind of work.

I don't blame them though, most fullstack job offers have up to 200 applicants for any kind of job or requirement. It's: AI job offer -> 200 AI fake resume -> AI ATS to reject people.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago

WTF?!? Where are you getting all of these interviews? I’ve been looking for a job for 19 months and had two interviews.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 19 hours ago

i think AI is being used to screen job applicant resumes in the usa, thats why i think theres been so many people who have the same problem.

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[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 28 points 1 day ago

Let me guess, 10 years experience needed?

[-] one_old_coder@piefed.social 25 points 1 day ago

Not yet, but they all have various job titles like AI developer, AI architect, AI devops, AI anything... It's like they stick the word AI to traditional roles and expect people to understand what it's all about (or pretend it's a job that exists at all, it's a scam after all).

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago

For the most part, I am an AI sceptic. My firm has had access to and beta tested every Google AI model since before the AI had a name (yes, well before Bard). We also have access to ChatGPT, Claude and locally run models on dedicated hardware. I'll save you the suspense, at the moment it's all mostly trash. Barely a proof of concept. Definitely not production ready, but there are a few exceptions I, personally, have found.

Gemini Pro is excellent at identifying and diagnosing sick garden plants if you take and upload a photos of the plants. Unfortunately, it still cannot do simple arithmetic. A simple SUM that any spreadsheet does automatically by just highlighting the cells, and somehow it was still off by one.

For software dev, the only one product we have found to be useful is Claude, BUT it really depends on the model. Haiku is a joke. Sonnet is not bad, if not bad is ~50% accuracy. Opus is fairly descent at building scaffolding that you can then correct and complete, but don't expect efficient code.

The only model we have ever tested that can deliver ALMOST fully functional code, reliably diagnose errors, and review code is Mythos/Fable. Genuinely not absolute shite, BUT that shit is extremely slow and outrageously expensive. I seriously doubt that your company is forking out the money for Claude Fable as their default model, and if they are, they must not care about ever making a profit.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

likely common house plants have so many pictures online already it would be easy to identify with a AI, especially people also post disease plants to idenfy it too. they dont do that well with animals/pests though, since theres alot of look alike species and very similar patterns.

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[-] fizzle@quokk.au 33 points 1 day ago

There was another similar post not that long ago.

Manager says "we don't touch code any more, we only tell claude what to do". Part of the thinking is that claude will improve as you teach it.

There's a lot of hype and hyperbole from both sides. Managers thinking claude can replace entire teams and commentary saying it can't explain how to tie your shoes.

I haven't used claude itself so I just don't know, but things like Mistral and other models available on huggingface just aren't in this kind of league.

I feel like the atrophy of cognitive function and high level skills is the other side of the AI-in-the-workplace coin. It just seems obvious to me, and I'm sure to any professional, that they wouldn't have developed their skill if they didn't... develop their skill. You can't really develop coding skills by looking at what claude did.

[-] vivi@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 day ago

Part of the thinking is that claude will improve as you teach it.

This is just a complete misunderstanding (by the manager) of how LLMs work. Sure, they probably log conversations as training data for a new model, but session to session, it does not improve from talking to it. The model is fixed. There are strategies which boil down to having the LLM write a diary of things it should "remember" which it subsequently has to reread when relaunching, but those suffer from fundamental limits, only so much can be stored before it runs out of context.

It's so frustrating how much imaginative thinking and anthropomorphization is applied to these tools...

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[-] Semotto@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Trusting ai with drivers, that's bad...

[-] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago

Better polish your CV and stick the popcorn in the microwave. Start sending applications when the first customer complaints start popping up. You should have a new job by the time the company’s reputation is in flames.

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