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submitted 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) by mecen@lemmy.ca to c/games@lemmy.world

This is self explanatory; to all who do not support the idea of ownership, there shall be no more funding, regardless of their game's quality.

Advice:

buy from GOG, avoid single player games which require internet connection or 3 party launchers.

Repost from reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/StopKillingGames/comments/1ugzirg/stoppayinggames/

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[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 149 points 4 weeks ago

It is not self-explanatory. You needed to explain it. On its face, it sounds like it's saying to just pirate. I can get behind the message, but these three words aren't it. I know that coming up with effective, catchy slogans is hard, but this one's not going to do well.

[-] mecen@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 weeks ago

Not pay and even if pirate don't promote these games

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 50 points 4 weeks ago

If you're endorsing piracy as a political stance in any way, I don't see it gaining traction. People need to be paid for their work; especially those who built a product for you that's meant to last and can't be taken away from you. I don't know how you convey that in a three- or four-word slogan, but I don't think this one does it.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 40 points 4 weeks ago

People need to be paid for their work

The dogged insistence that piracy of a corporate product impacts the pay of it's employees neglects how the wage system works.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 22 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

The wages only appear if the thing they produce creates profits for the corporation. If they continually produce something that doesn't sell, they won't have a job anymore. And I'll raise you another part of this equation. If you pirated Assassin's Creed: Shadows because you hate Ubisoft or whatever, that game will take somewhere between 35 and 65 hours for most people to finish, according to How Long to Beat. That's 35 to 65 hours that you weren't spending in some other game, perhaps a game that respects your values enough that you'd part with your money to play. Maybe that's Kingdom Come: Deliverance II or The Alters or Knights in Tight Spaces; whatever your preferences are, there's some other game that also didn't get your money because you were playing that pirated game instead, and I picked those three examples because they're recent and run a range of different developer/publisher models while still being DRM-free.

[-] athatet@lemmy.zip 30 points 4 weeks ago

What are you talking about? Game devs are constantly being laid off even after the product they create, creates profits for the corp.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

The wages only appear if the thing they produce creates profits for the corporation.

Would you take a job that requires years to complete and forego wages until it retails?

Nobody actually works like that.

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[-] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 4 weeks ago

And yet there are free indie games out there that are generally better than the corp funded crap. Creators will create, no matter what happens.

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[-] mecen@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Well if single player game needs to connect to publisher sever to play then you don't buy this game and piracy is just preservation. I'm not endorsing piracy, but not condemning it.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago

I agree with the first sentence, but that's what I feel this slogan does a poor job of reinforcing.

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[-] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 weeks ago

People need to be paid for their work;

Then they need to quit fucking over their paying customers

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[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 10 points 4 weeks ago

I am going to be frank, most people don't care about piracy. You making it the crux of this issue is a red hearing and disingenuous. It is something a corporate shill would bring up.

[-] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

Being frank, nothing will come of a movement about consumer rights if it looks like you just want to get things for free.

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[-] Abyssian@lemmy.world 43 points 4 weeks ago

At this point I think it's safe to assume all large companies are evil and so piracy of any software/media/etc created by a large company is the moral thing to do.

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[-] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 34 points 4 weeks ago
[-] als 30 points 4 weeks ago

Kinda telling that Valve aren't on here. They also only sell a license to play a game, not the game.

[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 19 points 4 weeks ago

Well technically and legally you always buy a license even with a game on physical media.

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[-] Toga77@lemmy.world 29 points 4 weeks ago

If buying is not ownership, piracy is not stealing.

Fuck em.

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[-] ysjet@lemmy.world 27 points 4 weeks ago

I'm going to be honest, this sounds like an astroturf campaign trying to reduce SKG into absurdity to harm it's credibility.

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[-] random_character_a@lemmy.world 24 points 4 weeks ago

Most of those are ones i already hate.

My childhood friend and a common acquaintance work at Supercell. I once asked them what they think about the moral issue of putting paid loot boxes in games for children.

They had never heard of such a controversy and didn't understand why a fun and profitable feature would be somehow wrong.

[-] thiscat 19 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

joke on you im playing retro games!!!!

EDIT: but no seriously playing retro games is a great alternative then playing what's new

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[-] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 19 points 4 weeks ago

I love steam, but it needs to be in this image.

[-] Limonene@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago

Did Steam shut down games people bought?

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[-] vane@lemmy.world 18 points 4 weeks ago

Why ESL is bad ? They don't make any games. They just do esports that promote gaming.

Why Sega is bad ? What did Bandai Namco ?

Only one Chinese company but no explicitly Tencent who owns Supercell and have 1/3 Epic Games, 1/3 Ubisoft it is just it's brand name Level Infinite that means nothing.

No Scopely who owns Monopoly Go that alone makes $200M per month on gambling.

Any mobile gambling companies with micro transactions that are in fact casinos should be there instead of companies that just make AAA flops.

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[-] Beangut@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago

Rockstar should be added to this list.

[-] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Rockstar Games, Inc. is an American video game publisher based in New York City. The company was established in December 1998 as a subsidiary of Take-Two Interactive.

Take-Two is already on the list, and also covers 2K and Zynga.

[-] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago

So really the list should show all the subsidaries. Because there's probably a decent number of people that don't know.

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 15 points 4 weeks ago

Shouldn't it be #VoteWithYourWallet?

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[-] grinning_serpent@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago

This is pretty much impossible. I don't think y'all realize how much space those corporations control.

It's like trying to boycott Nestle.

[-] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 16 points 4 weeks ago

You say that as if piracy isn't just a few clicks away.

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[-] tourist@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago

Should I feel bad for assuming any company's name that ends in "group" probably do some heinous shit

[-] kboos1@lemmy.world 13 points 4 weeks ago

I would like a law that says the publisher/owner/digital store has to remove any server pings and anti-cheat through a standalone update that can be shared and downloaded once they abandon support. This would go for games and any other digital media, alternatively they would have to offer a refund.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 11 points 4 weeks ago

I believe thatbis part ofnthe Stop Killing Games platform.

[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 12 points 4 weeks ago

I agree with the thrust of this, but I have no faith in the resolve of the average consumer to make a difference.

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[-] Icedrous@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 weeks ago

I’m assuming this also applies to Consoles as well: Sony removed purchased movies from people’s Sony Pictures Core app. I wonder if, or when, they’ll decide to do the same to games.

If it does come to that: what are our options as console gamers (other than piracy)? Buying physical discs?

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[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 10 points 4 weeks ago

All software has been licensed since day 1. You have never owned software in your life, even if you have a disc.

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[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 10 points 4 weeks ago

I would never buy a car that I had to store in someone else's garage.

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