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[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Yes... it's like default settings. The very action of changing a setting on any devices means you are a "power user". You made a conscious decision on how the device should behave and you suspect it can be done. Meanwhile the vast majority of users do not even consider this a possibility.

Windows users are not using a computer, they are doing another task that happens to required a machine, they don't learn about what it is, how it works, how it can be modified.

IMHO it was perfectly in the 70s when there was no laptop, desktop, mobile phone, mobile data. Now that one needs to use such infrastructure to interact with others, vote, pay bills, get access to culture, etc then I do believe computer literacy is not optional anymore.

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 days ago

Pretty sure you can change plenty of settings in Windows.

So they are power users by your own logic.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

My point isn't the availability of settings as a meaningful information but rather if somebody did change a setting, or not. If somebody changes a default setting, or a default OS, they are radically more likely to be a power user.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago

It's like that, but it's not the whole picture. That's how it starts. Then they get to something they can't change and start trying to figure out why. Then in their web searches they stumble into a Linux forum...

(True story)

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[-] Nautalax@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

I don’t get why people on Lemmy care so much about either of them so passionately, I passively see more Linux vs Windows in a week here than basically the rest of my life before joining this site. Is every other person here some kind of computer science enthusiast or something like that?

[-] RobMyBot@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago

The principles that make Lemmy attractive are the same principles that people like about Linux: freedom, openness, tech independence. The list could go on.

Point is, it's safe to say that if you like either one, you're more likely than the average person to like the other as well.

[-] StinkySocialist@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's because Lemmy is a techy tinkering hub. The same skills and interests needed to be aware of and migrate to Lemmy lend themselves to people migrating to Linux.

Both are free and open source and arguably better than the alternatives of reddit and windows so of course there are a bunch of dorks on here trying to get you to switch.

Both also cut down on how much you can be spied on and manipulated by algorithms so that's a big incentive to convert people too.

Edit: btw you should switch to linux

[-] spittingimage@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Is every other person here some kind of computer science enthusiast or something like that?

That's a fair way to sum it up, yeah. Politics aside, we like to tinker with tech and Linux is inherently tinker-able.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Because there is an ethical implication is using Linux vs Windows.

Windows is the De Facto choice since Windows 95 at least. And Microsoft is steering computers in a anti-consumers space. So for many people, using Linux isn't simply using a different OS but it is also a ethical statement.

[-] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago

Lemmy, like linux, has a very small learning curve that keeps out most people.

[-] waldfee@feddit.org 10 points 3 days ago

Yes, most lemmings use Linux and because you have to care about your choice of operating system at least a little bit for Linux there is a lot of talk about it here

[-] Ordinary_Person@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

I don’t get why people on Lemmy care so much about either of them so passionately

Weirdos who feel the need to let everyone know their team is superior, so they can feel superior. Its just as dumb as apple vs. android or Xbox vs playstation vs pc. Guys, It's ok to like what you do and NOT shit on people who don't do what you're doing.

[-] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

I want people to have a free alternative to windows that actually let's them know what's under the hood, I understand that elitism absolutely exists in the Linux community, but most of us just want to see you enjoy an operating system that respects the user and isn't at the mercy of techbro man children.

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[-] muzzle@lemmy.zip 37 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I have the privilege of never having to think about windows. Once in a blue moon I am forced to help someone using it and I am absolutely baffled at how anyone can accept to daily drive it. You all are in an abusive relationship and you have no idea.

[-] Mertn33@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Even Microsoft are now renting Linux VMs on their cloud infrastructure.

[-] yesman@lemmy.world 113 points 4 days ago

This is true! Ignorance of Linux is the no1 reason people don't adopt it. This is doubly hard for Window-brains because the concept of choosing an OS is foreign to them. From their perspective it's your boss, your school, or your parents who choose your OS.

[-] NessD@lemmy.world 66 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Even though I highly support Linux and what it's thriving to be, but comments like this are why people don't switch. Calling people names never is a good idea to get them to support your cause.

[-] folekaule@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

Exactly. If we want people to switch to Linux, we need to make sure they are going to have a good experience. That means to accept that there are still some use cases that Windows is better for, at least for some people. If all you use your gaming rig for is LoL or you spend 99% of your workday in Excel, it doesn't make sense to switch. Linux will be there for them when they're ready.

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[-] olenkoVD@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 4 days ago

I think most of normal users don't even know what an OS is, so they don't think who is choosing it.

[-] azimir@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 days ago

Having taught a computer science course on Operating Systems it's even tough to teach a room full of CS undergrads what one is.

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[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Large majority of windows users never have a single thought about Linux users because they don't know Linux exists.

The average Linux evangelist on Lemmy vastly overestimates the tech-saviness of the average person.

[-] PrimeErective@startrek.website 44 points 4 days ago

I know, the average person probably only knows 2, maybe 3 distros Max

And Mint

Yes, of course Mint

[-] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 days ago

I work on the IT side of a non tech company. I don’t think vastly even comes close to covering how un-savvy the average person is

[-] RobMyBot@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago

And it's getting worse, not better.

[-] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

It is a miracle if the average users ever learns a new program with a GUI. And will curse the gods when even a single button is moved.

And if anyone thinks they would be fine running any command on anything ever, they are deluding themselves.

A black box with a single line of text? = they are being hacked and will pull the plug just to get rid of it.

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[-] CyberTheProtogen@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 days ago

The reasons I use Windows instead of Linux:

  1. I don’t really care that much
  2. i’ve had my PC on windows for a long time and haven’t had any major issue with it
  3. i’ve hard it’s a lot of work, especially when you already established a lot of things on windows
  4. I suck at coding. Closest I can do is vibe coding and it is very shameful. I can read and somewhat understand what code does, but I don’t have the time or patience to learn. Especially since there are so many languages and my school tried to teach Java for 2 school years, HTML for 1, and CSS for 1.
[-] Valorie12@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

The difference between Linux and Windows is that Windows is being made terrible on purpose.

[-] ButteredBread@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

does that imply linux is being made terrible by accident? which implies also that linux is being made terrible?

[-] Valorie12@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

From my experience, Linux is a little more susceptible to random bugs and issues, sadly doesn't support a lot of common software and games, etc. Terrible might be a strong word, but it has its issues. Hopefully things keep getting better.

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[-] gigastasio@sh.itjust.works 45 points 4 days ago
[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 40 points 4 days ago

TempleOS users in this post:

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[-] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Oh.

Well, the exact reverse of this was and has been my mental state for years now, untill a seemingly insecure Windows user here apparently felt the need to insinuate the opposite is actually case.

Evangelizing?

No, I don't do that.

I answer some questions that some people have, where they're initiating things.

Occasionally this elicits a REEEE type response from a Windows user... which I can usually counter with 'I actually used to work for MSFT... that's why I am now a linux user.'

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[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Meanwhile MacOS users:

interpret as you see fit

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

IT Professional here. I would take a steaming shit on every Apple product anyone has ever needed my help with if I didn't think it would get me fired.

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[-] marcos@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago

Welcome to your daily post about how Linux users talk so much about themselves...

Surrounded by zero Linux users talking about themselves.

[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Linux? Isn't that the kid from the Charlie Brown cartoons that walks around holding a blanket?

[-] Jinarched@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago
[-] GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca 14 points 4 days ago

Windows users think about Linux all the time. "Why is this web site down?" "Whats happening with Cloudflare?" etc. They just don't realize it's Linux and don't notice it all unless it happens to stop working. Them not thinking about it isn't lack of concern or interest, it's complete ignorance of the reality they live in. In fact, they probably have a computer with a *nix derivative OS that they use every day, whether their smartphone is Android or iOS.

[-] 666dollarfootlong@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

I use Windows 10, and I think about switching to Linux all the time. I just feel like i need atleast two whole days to backup all my important stuff, to wipe all drives clean, to config everything, but I just don't know when I have those 2-3 days

[-] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

I just got a second SSD and installed Linux on it and in BIOS I set the boot order to boot from the Linux drive. Still have my SSD with Windows 10 in case I need it. During boot, I then can just press F8 and select the boot drive, should I desire to use my Windows 10 drive. Easy.

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