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[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 4 points 48 minutes ago

It's not a continuity error as such, but I'm a big fan of all the technologies that by rights should have completely upended galactic civilization but then just get forgotten.

The Genesis device should be an appalling superweapon that would change the face of war.

And then those missiles from Generations that can kill an entire solar system should, too.

And the time on TNG that they stumbled on a weird transporter trick that could make it so no one would ever need to die of old age ever again.

And the Tribble blood that cures death.

And so forth.

[-] haverholm@kbin.earth 6 points 4 hours ago

I'm watching VOY at the moment, and it makes no sense how Seven of Nine's parents would have made contact with and been assimilated by the Borg, decades before Q threw the Enterprise-D across the galaxy to make (what we assumed to be) first contact with them.

In "Q who", meeting the Borg is portrayed like blood in the water — now they have learned of the Federation, they will not stop until you are assimilated. Except oh wait, they did assimilate those three humans several years before, so they would have already known about the Federation.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

The 2009 movie. Just, like, the whole thing.

(And I'm not even talking about differences between the JJ-verse and the "prime" timeline; I'm talking about shit not making any damn sense in the internal context of the plot. Kirk was a mutinous fuck-up cadet who should've been thrown out the airlock when Spock had the chance, not promoted straight from cadet to captain by the end of the movie!)

[-] SatyrSack@quokk.au 13 points 8 hours ago

The warp scale changed. The Enterprise exceeded warp 10 several times in the Original Series. Then that infamous episode of Voyager claims that warp 10 is a theoretical limit which is difficult to reach and literally impossible to exceed.

[-] haverholm@kbin.earth 5 points 4 hours ago

Scotty was simply that good at tweaking the engines. That, or the crew were just playing to Kirk's ego, pretending to go super fast à la "this amp goes to 11” while they trundled along at warp 7.

[-] Vanth@reddthat.com 17 points 9 hours ago

Klingons look very different through the various shows. And more than just costuming progress of the time.

TOS:

TNG-era, the one I think most people would think of:

Discovery:

And the latest show, Academy, reverts back to TNG-era style Klingons.

[-] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Is the cannon explanation for tos to tng change being a skin disease or something that has infected the whole population?

[-] Kwdg@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 7 hours ago

No that is actually somewhat the explanation why they look more human. It is explained in Enterprise, the Klingons try to create some super soldier serum, but that kills them. Phlox helps them create a cure, but that makes them look more humanoid. I think at the end of the episode they say that it might take centuries to revert this effect

[-] themoken@startrek.website 5 points 7 hours ago

Enterprise established it as a result of Klingons experimenting with human augment DNA and it getting out of hand. It probably didn't need to be addressed in universe, but I thought it was a fun retcon.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 hours ago

you mean like new zealand missing in first contact?

[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 9 points 8 hours ago

Obviously you're going to cloak the facility where you keep your most hardened criminals.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 hours ago

elsewhere in the film, new zealand is on a map shown on a display.

[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 8 points 8 hours ago

Obviously you're going to keep the facility where you keep their most hardened criminals in plain sight.

[-] charonn0@startrek.website 7 points 8 hours ago

I contend that it is not actually missing, it's just not visible from that perspective. When I recreate the shot in Google Earth only the extreme north tip of New Zealand is actually visible:

[-] Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 2 points 6 hours ago

There's a lot north of Auckland, its a 5 and a half hour drive to Cape Reinga

[-] EarMaster@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

But I have to agree that it is barely visible.

[-] aldhissla@piefed.world 3 points 6 hours ago

So how big are DS9 and the Defiant actually? The scales were all over the place.

[-] Solumbran@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

The church in Discovery.

I am convinced that they put it there without having an explanation yet, then forgot they did it when they made the explanation.

[-] themoken@startrek.website 9 points 7 hours ago

Ugh, Discovery just made no sense in a million ways. My (least) favorite is how Control was sentient AI like a century before Data was a thing, or even M-5. That and every time Section 31 was acknowledged as Starfleet black ops instead of a rogue agency of assholes.

[-] Solumbran@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

Let's not forget the part where they want to go in the future to stop control because they think they can't destroy it, then control gets destroyed, then they go in the future anyway.

Also, I don't think any star trek depicted section 31 in a way that didn't make the show worse, but Discovery really went the extra mile

[-] themoken@startrek.website 4 points 6 hours ago

I think DS9 did Section 31 right, as the bad guys to be foiled, as anathema to Starfleet's ideals, but yeah every other show seems to miss the point.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 6 hours ago

The best part of DS9's Section 31 was that Section 31 knew they were the bad guys too.

[-] Solumbran@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

I mean, they were still trying to show it as James Bond-cool (which I mean, works if you see that James Bond is pretty problematic, but most people don't)... They were shown as a bit evil, but also as the "cool, edgy dudes that do what needs to be done", but other shows managed to do worse somehow.

[-] themoken@startrek.website 2 points 5 hours ago

All I know is that Sisko, Bashir, and O'Brien all identify Section 31 as non-Starfleet assholes that need to be stopped at all costs. Discovery has Pike practically saluting Section 31 genocidal Empress Georgiou and revering the black badges in a way I'll never forgive it for.

[-] ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip 1 points 4 hours ago

Well, Lower Decks maybe almost improved on that formula? And with a fun little joke about the black badges, too.

[-] haverholm@kbin.earth 1 points 4 hours ago

What? It was explained that the church and the people in it were yanked from certain destruction in WWIII to Terralysium by the red angel. It is spelled out in the season arc.

You don't like Disco, fine. But your lack of attention to the story is not the show's fault.

[-] Solumbran@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

The red angel, who is supposed to be either Burnham or her mother, and neither of them had a reason to go back in time to save a random church, and teleport it to a random planet. Also absolutely no mention of how they would achieve such a thing.

[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 6 points 8 hours ago

I enjoyed a couple of seasons of Ben Sisko's heavily-implied-to-be-dead dad.

[-] Einskjaldi@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago
[-] ValueSubtracted@startrek.website 5 points 43 minutes ago

It's all in past tense until he shows up in the flesh.

"Emissary": How about letting me cook dinner for you tonight? My father was a gourmet chef. I will make for you his famous aubergine stew.

"A Man Alone": Every night in my house, my dad insisted that we have supper together as a family. He would try out his new recipes on us. He used to call us his test tasters.

"The Alternate": When my father became ill, I can remember how small and weak he looked lying there in the bed. He'd been so strong, so independent. It always seemed to me there was nothing that he couldn't do. But in the end, I realised that there was nothing that he could do, and nothing I could do to help him.

"Paradise": Well, my father was a chef. He grew all his own vegetables. My brothers and I were sent out to the gardens every day.

[-] EarMaster@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I think he refers to the first season of DS9 where it was never explicitly mentioned that Joseph Sisko is well and alive (but neither was the opposite). He first appeared in season 4. He just doesn't exist before that.

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