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[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 239 points 1 year ago

We want teachers to be teaching and not having to waste time measuring a girl’s shirt or making a girl feel uncomfortable,” Shultz said.

Good because policing what girls wear stems from this fucked idea that boys have no sexual self control or responsibility for same and that women thus have to take responsibility for it via modesty.

So with those idiotic notions, rape victims get blamed for appearance, consent doesn't enter the conversation, rapey boys are "boys being boys", and similar awful shit.

[-] hansl@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

For added context, Shultz is the school board president here. The stunt didn’t change the vote and the new policy that was being protested is the same as other schools in the area that didn’t have any problems regarding dressing.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

For added context, Shultz is the school board president here.

Holy shit 😳 how did I miss that??

I'm glad his ridiculous antics failed.

[-] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

Not really no.

It comes from being distracting.

The point of school is learning, not fashion, not looking good.

Honestly this is why school uniforms are such a good idea. Cuts out the ambiguity of a dress code.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 70 points 1 year ago

Point of school is learning, yes. And fashion and looking good is also a part of learning, and expressing yourself, and attracting like minded individuals to build friendships, etc.

Boys should be taught to control themselves if someone nearby is "distracting", hey another thing they can learn at school. Teach kids how to be adults, not just algebra.

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[-] threeduck@aussie.zone 29 points 1 year ago

I tell you what would REALLY help me not get distracted at school, if the girls had to wear burqas.

Then us fellas don't need to worry about learning self control or mental discipline. It's win win! By which I mean, two wins for men.

[-] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Except anything can be distracting and there's a certainly a reason why the school girl outfit has so many sexy versions and lingerie. School uniforms are a terrible idea for many reasons. You generally can't buy then second hand, low income families now need two sets of clothing for their kids, and it is possible to buy "higher quality" ones from places like Macy's.

[-] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I only agree with you because I could stare at the ass of a girl I used to have in my class all day. And I know for a fact I wasn't the only one.

Uffff but yhe that's still my fault and my bad, I shouldn't be asking her to wear more clothes so I can focus

[-] spiderplant@lemm.ee 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A uniform doesn't stop that through, someone who is distracted by girls will continue to be distracted by girls no matter what they are wearing. Same goes for the other way around.

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[-] Pasta4u@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I went to a public high school where boys had to wear long pants all year round. We didn't have air conditioners. Meanwhile girls would wear skirts.

So stop woth the sexism.

Public schools should just have uniforms of a polo shirt and slacks , shorts or knee high skirts and that is it.

It will help also woth poor kids not having to be made fun of when some people come in with Gucci purses amd expensive shit.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Sounds like the dress code hurts boys as well. The solution is still to reform.

I've heard of male students wearing skirts in protest and that normally works with the Puritan school administrators.

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[-] EsheLynn 36 points 1 year ago

Who purchases the uniforms? You mentioned impoverished kids being made fun of, but the parents have to buy the expensive, overinflated uniforms as well. Wouldn't that put more strain on less well off families, having to buy specific clothes for their child's attendance, each year for each child?

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[-] dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

I disagree completely. Uniforms have been proven to not help with anything they claim to. For one, they generally can't be bought second hand.

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[-] optissima@possumpat.io 27 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry why is your solution "make the poors pay for something else."

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[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 203 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

From the article:

As a dad, that’s very concerned about my children ....

I may disagree with it, but his kids aren't mine, so he, as the parent, he can prevent his daughters from owning that offending clothing.

...as well as everyone else’s kids in the district,

And here's where it goes off the rails. Why don't you keep your own parenting in your house instead of your neighbor's house, eh? Are you also going to decide what books other parent's kids read? How about what religious beliefs (if any) other parent's kids follow? None of that is your business. If other parents are okay with their kids dressing that way you shouldn't get a say on that.

[-] silentdon@lemmy.world 76 points 1 year ago

Sadly, there are plenty of people trying to dictate what other people's children read based on their own feelings

[-] AltheaHunter 31 points 1 year ago

They'll indoctrinate other people's children into their religion too, if they get the chance.

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[-] Seraph@kbin.social 56 points 1 year ago

Maybe focus on parenting your own child instead of everyone's.

Also does this guy have a humiliation fetish?

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[-] stephfinitely@lemmy.world 125 points 1 year ago

Shouldn't the parents be watching what their kids wear if they are worried about? A basic dress code is all that is needed. Just like the board said its a waste of time to measure girls skirts. Maybe if we didn't taboo the body so much people wouldn't care what someone else is wearing.

[-] Enigma@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 year ago

Hahahaha my parents “watched my clothing” so I either had extra clothes in my bag that I’d change into, or I’d wear them under a top layer of “approved” clothing and take it off later.

[-] kescusay@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Parent, here. My kids wear whatever the hell they want, and because I'm not giving them any reason to rebel, they don't feel any urge to do that kind of thing.

And if they did for fun or something? I wouldn't give a shit.

[-] stephfinitely@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

I agree I changed my clothes too sometimes in high school. But still a basic dress code would cover the more extreme outfit. But when it comes to a skirt being a slightly short I don't think its worth the school time to check.

[-] rosymind@leminal.space 24 points 1 year ago

Agreed. We all have bodies. Underwear is appropriate for shared spaces (most people dont want to sit on anyone else's ass juice) but aside from that this prudishness of the human form that many people have is silly to me.

Even if the dad DID walk around like that, I think that's his business. We should all be allowed to wear what we want (undies for sanitary reasons) and if something is offensive then people could just, you know, not look!

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[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 111 points 1 year ago

“As a board we voted to ultimately let parents and families decide what is appropriate for them. It is the parents and family’s choice and as long as it doesn’t disrupt the school day, it would be a non-issue.”

I was not expecting this level of common sense from an Arizona school board. Good on them.

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[-] Armok_the_bunny@lemmy.world 95 points 1 year ago

I actually find myself siding with the board here, if only because I have heard all too often about dress codes being overly restrictive or overly enforced. Like the board said, they don't want teachers wasting time measuring a girl's shirt when they should be teaching.

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 50 points 1 year ago

His argument is that he looks like a fool dressed like that, so everyone who dresses like that looks like a fool? Weird thinking.

[-] McJonalds@lemmy.world 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

his argument is the new dresscode would allow young girls to dress like that and he thinks the school should police it, instead of just raising his kids to be well adjusted and responsible. or it makes his pp hard and it makes it harder to hide that he's a pedo when he's in public

[-] olympicyes@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

The goal of people pushing agendas like this is the elimination of public education and state support for religious schools via “charter schools”. A lot of the people who run for school board who push parents rights are religious fundamentalists, real estate developers, or charter school consultants. This is at least true where I live.

[-] Ragdoll_X@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Kind of tangential but towards the end of HS we had this ongoing trend of wearing costumes to school every wednesday. Some of the class participated more often than others, some (including me) barely participated at all.

There was one week where everyone was determined to participate though, because we had planned for boys to go dressed as girls and vice-versa. I still didn't really care to join them but some friends of mine said they'd lend me some of their clothes and makeup so I'd have no excuse to not participate.

What I didn't anticipate is that they'd dress me up just like the guy in the pic, only difference being that I'm underweight, not overweight. Still looked like a fool though, but that was part of the fun, not some pseudo political statement.

Anyways, tangent over.

[-] Fal@yiffit.net 16 points 1 year ago

I thought this was going to turn into an egg_irl comment

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago

Sometimes my daughter wants to go to school in something too revealing.

We tell her to change because we're her parents and that's called parenting. We don't need the school to tell her what to wear.

[-] CeruleanRuin@lemmings.world 31 points 1 year ago

Nobody's concerned with what their own children are wearing. They're concerned that they might be exposed to abdomen skin (the horror!) because of what someone else's child is wearing.

[-] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

If only any of these parents cared about supporting teachers and their kids actually learning.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 year ago

also, none of the traumatic things that happened to me in my adolescence were based around the clothes any of us were wearing.

[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

Real big get back in the kitchen energy from this guy. He probably needs the kids more covered up because he can't control himself around too much exposed teenage girl skin.

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[-] Orbituary@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago

Oh, he's a never-nude too! I didn't see him at the convention last year in Berlin. There were literally dozens of us there. Dozens!

[-] roguetrick@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago

I hope someone called the police. Someone stole that poor man's ass.

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[-] FreshLight@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

Can't parents just talk to their children about how to dress?

I feel like that's a simpler solution and this way the school can focus on teaching.

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

My wifes a teacher, they do have to spend an absolutely mind boggling amount of time covering shit that really should be handled at home. Literally calling parents about their kids refusing to do any work and the parent saying "I dont know what you want me to do"

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[-] reddig33@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

If the dress code is gonna be a problem, just make everyone wear a school uniform and be done with it.

[-] Primarily0617@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago

it's crazy that they're making a crop top and short shorts mandatory dress code for all students

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