Banning porn where the actors pretend that what they're doing is almost illegal is wild. What's next, prison time if they say that one of the participants is just over the age of consent?
Nah, I want to know when they finally ban the really vile stuff. You know, all those murders on the screen in, oh I don't know, 70% of all fictional works?
That they seriously consider step porn as worse than murder shows that it is all about control and not about morals.
Talking about banning porn is just outrage porn for those for and against it. The point is to drive home surveillance state and most importantly drive discussion away from things that actually matter and the people in power desperately want people not to talk about or take notice. Modern liberal politics is very much an art of pretending to do something when actually doing nothing and just acting as the guarddog of even decaying society that has been politically hermetically sealed for the benefit of the top 1% funder class.
tackling this vile content will make our country a safer place for women
Doubt.
Generally, the effect of all the "for children" laws and parties etc is exactly the opposite.
I never understood this whole step porn thing, but this is ridiculous lol
Yeah.
I don’t get it, it’s weird, but is it 5 years in jail weird? No.
It cheap to make. The "story" is simple but explains why these two people live in the same house without it being incest.
It's also really efficient, setting up the entire relationship with just the word "step-bro". Plus, it's taboo enough for the characters to say "we shouldn't", but not SO taboo that the viewer thinks they actually shouldn't.
You guys in the UK better burn any copies of Game of Thrones you might have around. The show wasn't that good as to be worth the jail time.
On a side note, is the UK alright?
No, the UK is not alright. They've been banning a lot of stuff lately. And I mean a lot. It's comparable to even the Deep South of the US, and that's hardly an exaggeration. The worst part is that most of it seems to truly be a bipartisan effort.
A country with what remains of a monarchy banning any kind of incest porn is just… wow…
Irony has been institutionalized.
Just another moral panic to allow the Government to continue to lay the ground work to take away rights.
Oi bruv where's yer wanking loicense?!
The only porn allowed in 10 years will be of people getting fucked by the government
The role of the government is not to decide what is abhorrent and what isn't. The role of the government is to ensure protection of human rights, provide healthcare, run schools, build infrastructure and so on.
Consenting horny adults being horny with each other and doing horny stuff to each other does not violate any human rights.
The British government can go fuck itself.
This is the sort of stupid shit you get when you vote for right wing whack-a-doos.
Sad thing, that was supposed to be the left wing party. Corbyn was an open socialist.
but they had a huge antisemitic campaign that ousted him for his support of Palestine and turned the Labor into a clone of the Tories.
Somehow, Israel is always to blame.
Israel is the bleeding edge of colonialism in our modern era. So almost every fucked up situation circles back to them evetually
the most annoying part is that Israel took all the antisemitic conspiracy theories and made them real for Zionists, then ensure all the world blames the jews. They are the leading source of modern antisemitism. like even the most deranged antisemitic concepts like blood libel was made true by organ stealing (Knesset admitted it in 2006)
The Ministry of Justice said that possessing and publishing porn showing incest between family members and sex between step or foster relatives where one person pretends to be under-18 would be a crime.
This reads like its only banned if someone also pretends to be under 18?
IDK but I thought porn depicting minors was generally banned in most countries?
don't know if porn depicting an adult pretending to be a minor actually qualifies, but that feels like an extremely thorny topic.
The most interesting thing about this is the fact that step siblings can have legal relationships and even marry under UK law, but depictions of their very legal sex lives are now illegal.
I think someone might challenge this as a human right to expression infringement.
For instance, you and your partner happen to be step siblings, but want to generate income on onlyfans. Now you can't. Not because you are defacto doing anything illegal.
Also, and here's where it gets fun...
Imagine you and your partner do make sexy videos but then your respective parents hook up.
The videos were made when you were not step siblings, but now you are.
Where does the law stand there? No one knows.
As always, the first computers you should check when anyone tries to ban consensual porn that harms no one, are the computers of the ones proposing the ban.
Oh no! How will I ever know what to do when my step-sibling is stuck in a washing machine?!
Seriously though, while it is definitely weird when an adult pretends to be a minor in porn, is it really 5 years in prison weird??
Like are we really going to put people in prison for pretending to do something illegal when we already have a problem with huge delays in court times and severely overcrowded prisons?
I'd much prefer the limited public resources go towards locking up actual pedos than people fetishising them.
Thou doth protest too much 😏
Help me Step Big Brother! I'm stuck with my government in my bedroom!
Step-incest pornography and that which depicts performers as children is abhorrent.
Alongside banning strangulation in pornography which the government previously announced, tackling this vile content will make our country a safer place for women and children and shows the UK can lead the world in tackling violence against women and girls
That's it folks, step incest is violence against women and girls. Next up, in order to further protect them, they'll be prohibited from going outside without a man by their side.
Whoever asked "What's next, BDSM?" - guess what
The government has already made porn that shows women being choked illegal, after a review found videos like these had helped normalise it in real life.
The only silver lining in this whole thing is still only in "planning"
Ministers are also planning to make tech bosses personally liable if their platforms do not remove intimate pictures of people that are posted without consent.
I may be stateside but i'm still amazed that a party that's supposed to be truly left-leaning is putting out alt-right policies in the U.K.
there are countless thousands being massacred around the world, there are people starving to death, there are soooo many problems, and this is what we're focusing on? JFC. Fuck you starmer
This is the hill they die on? This is the issue they threaten to revolt for? Not properly funding the NHS or something else that benefits people?
That's about par for the course.
So far, the current UK government seems to realise they've lost their voters; thus they're trying to appeal to the opposition's voters.
The trouble is, no-one really wants censorship laws save for small (but vocal) pockets religious nuts masquerading as feminists.
We've normalised "if you are against x, you are a vile monster" kind of thinking; and thus we are now facing sweeping censorship.
From my own experience living in the UK (as somebody from somewhere else in Europe who also lived in a couple more European countries), Britain is hugelly Moralistic, sorta like Southern Europe 50 years ago before Universal Education when those countries were very religious.
The thing is, Southern Europe has actually moved onwards from that decades ago, as religion's power weakened thanks to high levels of Education amongst the young, whilst in Britain there were a few decades with a bit more moral liberalism which was just about enough to make homophobia socially frowned upon and to make homosexual marriage legal, but no further, and it all seemed to be anchored on who it is or not socially acceptable to shun for their sexuality, so nowadays you get self-proclaimed Feminists in The Guardian (so, supposedly the most liberal people in the most liberal newspaper) with opinion pieces outraged about for the (I! Kid! You! Not!) use of sex dolls by men, with not even the tinyest bit of self-awareness about how that's exactly the same kind of article written about homosexuality a mere 40 years ago only about some other sexual practice that hurts nobody.
Unsurprisingly, that country has even slid down to transphobia in recent years.
So in present day Britain things having slid down so far that there's a moral outrage for some kind of sexual roleplaying or other and a weak and desperate hard-right "center"-"left" government enacting legislation with actual prison time for it, isn't too surprising.
In the XXI century, Britain is quickly passing the most backwards countries in Europe, accelerating towards its "golden age": the Victorian Era.
What a colossal waste of tax money if it actually goes through... They're gonna feel silly when they realize none of the people in the films are actually related and porn is just fantasy. I suppose is these people understood fantasy they wouldn't be religion simps though.
Labour had a historical chance after the Tories have fucked it up so much, and they're just doing shit all the time
Hopefully the Green party can save UK
So when are they jailing the pedofile child torturers
Every few years politicians throw a Victorian fit and demand to cover up flag poles or some shit
As a furry, this is uh, worrying.
Really glad we're not in the UK. Though uh, not like the US is much better at this point... but at least the US has the whole "everyone understands that the current government is going on a series of ridiculous power trips" going for it, so they're less inclined to just think "ah yeah, throw all the weirdos in jail, totally normal!".
(I'm not into incest, but I am into completely different Weird Shit.)
-- Frost
I see the US and the UK still battling it out regarding who the bigger idiot is
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