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[-] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 179 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah, no. Segregation magically ending in 1954? The Civil Rights struggles of the 60s didn't happen? Redlining and Ghettoizing of Black communities? Destruction of Black families by mass incarceration of Black males and forcing families to stay apart to collect benefits, while vilifying single Black mothers as "welfare queens"? We have never, ever been in the green.

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 75 points 3 weeks ago

Even slavery is still around.

[-] EldritchFeminity 30 points 3 weeks ago

Hell, there were (are still?) segregated schools up until around 2000. I know at least one wasn't set to desegregate until sometime in the 90s.

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago

I remember reading about a segregated prom in like 2013

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[-] grue@lemmy.world 31 points 3 weeks ago

while vilifying single Black mothers as “welfare queens”?

You forgot the "best" part: poor people renting apartments end up subsidizing wealthier people living in single-family homes, because suburban sprawl doesn't generate enough tax revenue per acre to fund the infrastructure and services it consumes. The white middle-class bigots doing the vilifying are, themselves, the real welfare queens!

[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 20 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, wtf. Martin Luther King got shot in 68. They just forgot to tell him that all is well for 14 years?

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[-] wolfrasin@lemmy.today 97 points 3 weeks ago

What is the US prison system but slavery with extra steps?

[-] naught@sh.itjust.works 54 points 3 weeks ago

there aren't even really extra steps considering slavery is perfectly legal in prisons according to the constitution

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[-] Hegar@fedia.io 65 points 3 weeks ago

The yellow should be orange and the green should be yellow and labeled "carcereal slavery"

[-] Pogogunner@sopuli.xyz 21 points 3 weeks ago

I was going to comment something along these lines with the war on drugs, but legal slavery for imprisoned persons is a huge part of why the war on drugs was pursued and persists.

[-] Rothe@piefed.social 39 points 3 weeks ago

The civil rights act is from 1964, so even shorter time than the picture shows.

[-] vzqq 19 points 3 weeks ago

And after that, VRA, loving vs Virginia, fair housing act. Ending segregation was a gradual process that, by many metrics, still isn’t complete, but any date before 1964 or 1968 is a big fat lie.

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[-] RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip 33 points 2 weeks ago

There were news stories as recent as 2012 about schools in the south being segregated. There are still sundown towns. Segregation only ended on paper.

[-] spicehoarder@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

My ex's family would talk about what they'd do to a black person if one ever stepped foot on their property. Within the last 10 years btw.

[-] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

If you count incarceration

We do. It is specifically and explicitly an exception in the US Constitution:

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 weeks ago

Well, American slavery never actually ended, we just call.it prison labor now. Segregation only really ended on paper. It's become less prominent I guess, but it's not gone.

[-] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 16 points 3 weeks ago

Remember that some places were forced to desegregate in the 1990s.

[-] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 13 points 3 weeks ago

What’s special about 1619 to be considered the start of American slavery?

[-] airbreather@lemmy.world 36 points 3 weeks ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jamestown%2C_Virginia

In August 1619, the first recorded slaves from Africa to British North America arrived at present-day Old Point Comfort, near the Jamestown colony, on a British privateer ship flying a Dutch flag.

[-] usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It was when enslaved African people were first brought to Jamestown. Exactly when the start is more broadly is kind of harder to say since some things are more disputed

The arrival of the first captives to the Jamestown Colony, in 1619, is often seen as the beginning of slavery in America—but enslaved Africans arrived in North America as early as the 1500s.

https://www.history.com/articles/american-slavery-before-jamestown-1619

[-] Teppa@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Not every white person had a house either, and if they didnt then their family ended up losing a lot of compound growth, and ended up poorer as they payed somebody elses mortgage. What really happened I think is the lack of class mobility due to the financialization of everything, due to unlimited money printing and corporate bailouts.

The average mortgage was 7 years historically and somebody saving a ton could pay it off in under 5 years, instead of the massive 30 year loans backed by the govenment we have now. Its like as we got richer and more productive we simultaneously became poorer and can barely house ourselves, as food quality got cheaper with shrinkflation and industrialization.

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Green is incarceration and wage slavery

[-] Eternal192@anarchist.nexus 12 points 2 weeks ago

Did slavery actually end? i mean you work 9-5 sometimes with unpaid overtime, you get unpaid PTO, you don't get any health insurance, you don't have enough to save something for retirement and you live paycheck to paycheck so it's slavery embellished with being called "work".

[-] Twinklebreeze@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

This is a dumb take. The horrors of capitalism aren't the same as the horrors of slavery.

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

If you think prison is equivalent to slavery, corporate needs to to find the difference between this picture and this picture

I know people are arguing in good faith and want prison reform. However, slavery apologists have captured this argument to minimize the suffering under chattel slavery. (no worse than going to prison) They also argue that the 13th is "white slavery" because half of all prisoners are white. If your the kind of person who understands the difference between an indentured servant and an enslaved person, then you need to understand that a prisoner, even one forced to work under the 13th, is a third thing.

[-] Calfpupa@lemmy.ml 33 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This is very inaccurate. Slavery is not dependent on the level of physical torture inflicted, it is entirely based on whether or not you are forced to work without "adequate" pay. Even in chattel slavery, there were different classes within the enslaved like house slaves and field slaves. Slaves in poorer houses where there were only a few often were treated better than those on plantations, it all came down to expendability.

Comparing a white man, who would be of the most privileged of those arrested, that was just taken in (this is a mugshot) and comparing it to a lifelong enslaved black man person only highlights that your presentation is heavily skewed.

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[-] Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Primus~ "Welp, no more slaves unless they are serving time in prison. It's a bummer."

Secundus~ "Well, let's put them in prison."

Primus~ "BRILLIANT"

Not to split hairs on moral grounds, but shouldnt it be english slavery up until at least the revolutionary war started?

[-] Bluewing@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

While the Brits outlawed slavery around 1830s for themselves, they had no problem loading slaves onto their ships and smuggling them to the Americas for a good while after. Plus they openly supported the Confederacy throughout the Civil War to keep the cotton rolling in. And of course we don't need to mention colonialism that lasted until after WW2 now, do we? Of course the French, Dutch, Spanish, and Germans also colonized every inch of some else's dirt to exploit them back to the Stone Age. And there was little hesitation to kill any and all that objected the "civilizing" effect of European influence.

And slavery is ongoing even as we speak in certain parts of this world. But we do nothing and care little about that. As long as they keep it on the down low we need not be overly concerned.

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

The green section is still racism but without legal mechanisms.

[-] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 6 points 2 weeks ago

Redlining went through to the 70s

[-] stickly@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Weird diagram. Why are we starting at 1619 in Virginia when it would be just as fair to say 1493 in Puerto Rico (or similar when you include Florida or parts annexed from Mexico). And the end of segregation is wrong as well.

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[-] allywilson@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 weeks ago

Now show slavery in Brazil.

Or Europe.

Or Islam.

This arbitrary timeline doesn't help. All slavery is bad.

It also doesn't help applying our current views and ideals on the past. I don't know when the cutoff is, but at some point we have to say "it was a different time and therefor acceptable" not necessarily forgiving them, but at least acknowledging that it was "acceptable."

[-] vzqq 14 points 3 weeks ago

What is your point exactly?

I know you are probably not trying to sound like an apologist for fucking slavery, but I’m coming up empty on alternative hypotheses.

"I'd rather whataboutism than admit that the country I live in, the one I'm attached to because I've been "loving" it like the rest of the American cult, is simply pure evil. Fuck black people, fuck the Natives that suffered my ancestors, my feelings are hurt!"

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[-] SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago

Ah yes, my favorite Geographic location...Islam

All slavery is bad, but not all slavery is equivalent. This is specifically a timeline of chattel slavery and its lingering impacts (i.e. lack of civil and voting rights), in the United States.

Chattel slavery required the construction of our modern ideas about race, in order to justify the keeping of people as chattel based on their skin color.

Slavery in Roman Europe, meanwhile, was more akin to indentured servitude, with the expectation that enslaved people would eventually become citizens.

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

This arbitrary timeline doesn’t help

The point, which should be abundantly obvious, is how recent race based chattel slavery being ended is, and how it was present throughout the history of the US.

The fact is that the US was built on race based chattel slavery. The US is fundamentally structured on racial hierarchy, with Black individuals existing under White ones. This has been legally codified for the bulk of the US’s lifespan, and is a foundational part of the way the US is structured.

This could be similarly said about Brazil, which was also organized around race based chattel slavery, with Europeans importing slaves from Africa there as well.

“Europe” or “Islam” are irrelevant and too broad to be useful terms for historical analysis or at all relevant here.

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[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It’s not arbitrary, it’s merely the scope of slavery and its effects in the United States. Do you get mad when people don’t talk about the Manchu Dynasty when discussing Victorian English tea consumption?

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[-] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago

Dog whistle alert

[-] wpb@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Slavery is still legal in the US as per the 13th amendment.

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