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[-] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

subtitles are needed more and more because dialog mix is usually kept low to have more dynamic range.

[-] moakley@lemmy.world 87 points 6 days ago

I can't not read them. My eyes read the subtitles against my will, and I miss whatever else is going on on the screen. Sometimes I spoil emotional moments because I read them first and miss the actor's delivery.

Other times subtitles are necessary, like if we're watching while the kids are asleep, and we need to keep the volume lower in case there's an action scene. Plus how else would I know if the music is "upbeat" or "somber" or whatever?

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

There seems to be a trend on YouTube where people ~~hardcore~~ hardcoded subtitles for the whole video

It's fucking infuriating

[-] ozymandias@sh.itjust.works 13 points 5 days ago

Fucking hardcore subtitles... and theyll be dead center over the video, and auto-transcribed wrong.
I think it helps avoid copyright though

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 13 points 5 days ago

And a moving highlight like it’s goddam karaoke. Absolute nightmare.

[-] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

Or, even worse, the video shows them one word at a time.

[-] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Another reason not to use TikTok. I don't use it, but I've seen clips from it. I'm not sure what the point is of the subtitles when they zip by, a few words at a time, before you can read them (and I'm a pretty fast reader, so that's saying something.)

[-] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

To get your attention. I know cause when I find one of these videos the captions feel like a flashing light telling you something important is happening, it's worse than youtube's shitty clickbait because is baked into the video so you can try looking away, but it's so distracting it genuely feels you're fighting the video by ignoring them.

They are also pointless. One word at a time doesn't have any benefit over normal captions, it's just distraction.

They turned an accessibility feature to an inaccessibility one.

[-] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 7 points 5 days ago

And they're always AI generated and that fucking thing misinterprets EVERYTHING!

[-] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

the moment when the uploader's subtitle is worse than the youtube auto subtitles

[-] GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 5 days ago

I think it's crossed over from the "attention grabbing" subtitles fashion prevalent in short form video... Subtitles are great as an accessibility feature, and I hope everything can have them, but forcing them on and making them flashy and obnoxious sucks.

[-] jtrek@startrek.website 2 points 5 days ago

i am too old to understand "hardcore" as a verb in that sentence. what?

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 5 days ago

typo'd "hardcoded"

[-] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 3 points 5 days ago

I've watched something in English, with German subtitles (because Netflix adds them without asking and I was too lazy to turn them off). I can't not read them, but I can't not listen and compare as well. Those translations sucked so much, I had to turn them off.

[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I'd rather have no subtitles than subtitles in different languages. I hate watching Amélie on streaming because the subs are always in English

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago

I dont have it but subs are always on. Cannot trust the shitty sound mixing to not make half the dialogue unhearable.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago

Inb4 "simply apply this technical fix, it can't possibly be bad mixing to require it"

[-] MagisterSieran@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 6 days ago
[-] Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 days ago

The joy of AuDHD oftentimes

[-] SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago

I used to need subtitles because I'm not a native speaker

[-] BierSoggyBeard@feddit.online 17 points 6 days ago

Special shout out if you are capable of manifesting both at once.

Similar to how you may bristle at rules and structure, but can't function at all without them.

[-] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 1 points 5 days ago

And doing so while eating chips.

[-] arcine@jlai.lu 5 points 5 days ago

I am both at the same time. I hate being like this 😭

Came here to say this.

I can't read while I'm trying to see things. But I also can't hear while I'm trying to see things. So... ... ... ... Crap

How do couples with both issues handle watching TV, or going to the cinema?

[-] Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 days ago

Couples? I have both myself. I only watch the subtitles.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago
[-] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 days ago

Oh would love a book with atmospheric music that changes through the pages and sound effects at the right time.

[-] Nemo@slrpnk.net 7 points 6 days ago

My wife just doesn't wear her glasses, the subtitles get too blurry to be distracting.

[-] anton 3 points 5 days ago

If I have to watch a film with subtitles, I try to position myself such that some object blocks my view of them. If I can't, I will hold a finger horizontally for the entire time.

[-] morrowind@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 days ago

You might be inadvertently making the problem worse. Your brain is generally pretty good at ignoring things after some exposure, but you're not giving it exposure and forcing yourself to think about it by having to position your finger

[-] greygore@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

I accept that I’m going to be distracted from the amazing visuals and beautiful cinematography, as well as as have punchlines spoiled by reading ahead. Or worse - the jarring mismatch between the spoken dialogue and the closed captioning.

On the bright side I don’t rewind or miss dialogue as much because of terrible audio any more.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 days ago

If I don't understand the spoken language, then I have no problem with subtitles. Having subtitles on in the same language as the audio? Drives me crazy.

[-] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago
[-] chocrates@piefed.world 7 points 5 days ago

I'm so lucky my partner and I both have the auditory issue so subs are always on. They won't even watch stuff without it. I have more tolerance for guessing what those sounds I thought I heard could mean

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 7 points 5 days ago
[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

This is why I watch the dub for anime. And when I say the subtitles are too distracting people always tell me I'm wrong and I'm not a real anime fan. But I guess I never really expected the anime community to be understanding in the first place lmao

[-] pHr34kY@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

My wife puts on the dubs and I put on the subtitles. The dubs bother me because the voice acting is always worse. Because of the audiotory processing, all I get from the voice is the emotion. The actual words come from the subtitles.

Even for shows in English, I use the audio dialogue for emotional cues. Captions better convey the actual words said.

I can process the audio dialogue if I have to, but subtitles require less mental energy.

[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Which is fair. Personally I think dub quality has gotten substantially better over the past couple decades. The sub will always be better, but the days of god awful translations and dubs is, for the most part, in the past (looking at you, Dragonball Z). Both have their positives and drawbacks for me.

My problem is that I straight up miss half the show if I have subtitles on. When Attack on Titan first came out I watched the sub because it was my only option at the time. When I was later able to watch the dub I found out that while I understood the dialog better with the sub, I missed almost every other scene. Especially when there was dialog in fight sequences where there is a lot happening. When I went back and watched the dub I was legitimately surprised because in my head the fight went completely different because my eyes were glued to the bottom half of the screen.

[-] Micromot@piefed.social 1 points 6 days ago

I had a phase of being against dubs too but have now realized they are just soo much easier to watch and understand

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 4 points 6 days ago

I live in an apartment building so for a lot of movies I have to put on the subtitles because it would be rude to turn the volume up enough to hear the dialogue clearly. They always mix the gunshots like 8dB above the dialogue!

[-] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 3 points 5 days ago

I just wish they were cnsistently oneline across the bottom. Not bouncing all ovwr and sometimes over everyone's head at the top of the screen.

[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 days ago

Closed captioning exists for this exact reason. Every major video streaming platform has it

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

My kids struggling to read so I turned on captions to help him out. And for whatever reason, it won't turn them off when it's just me. And it drives me fucking insane. It's like "I recognize your wishes and disrespectfully decline."

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Yes, I've met my parents. The latter being deaf didn't sway the former's opinions

[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 days ago

Extremely empathetic lol

[-] quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 days ago

I take issue with the subtitles going away too early, I usually put a 2 seconds delay to have time to look at the if I don't understand something

[-] shirro@aussie.zone 1 points 5 days ago

I think I can be both in the same day.

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