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You're not productive if you don't use a lot of AI, says guy who makes all of his money selling AI hardware

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[-] Feyd@programming.dev 190 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Jensen compared today’s AI tools to machinery that was invented during the industrial revolution

They really want this to be an apt comparison and it's really not

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It seems that the Nvidia CEO isn’t the only one investing in AI tokens for his employees to freely use.

They also really want to talk about tokens like they're some kind of currency

[-] artifex@piefed.social 23 points 3 weeks ago

I didn't read it that way. I think he's saying "bosses: if you're paying a $100k salary to a dev and not also paying $50k for tokens, your dev isn't working hard enough". Which is better, but only just.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 47 points 3 weeks ago

To refine that even further, he doesn't appear to imply that the dev isn't WORKING hard enough, only that they're not being OPTIMALLY PRODUCTIVE.

What he's trying to do, really is float and normalize the concept of baking tokens into HR math in terms of a "golden ratio"... which happens to be 2:1.

So, when a company goes all in on ai, and they cut thier workforce in half, they'll need to add in 50% for tokens. 50% of the original staff, at a new 150% cost, puts the company at 75% pre ai workforce cost. This is the "guidelines" they're trying to normalize.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It's funny how his calculation factors in the completely immaterial price of tokens variable instead the material one which is the number of tokens or better yet the productivity gain per token.

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[-] TwodogsFighting@lemdro.id 16 points 3 weeks ago

I think he's saying slaves should owe their soul to the company store.

Don't give this sack of shite the benefit of doubt.

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[-] fartographer@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

With my trusty LLM, I follow the steps recommending that I try reaching inside the die press to look for any jammed parts that could have caused the machine to suddenly stop working. My coworker, who my boss sent to assist me based on instructions from her LLM, asks his LLM how to help me. My coworker's LLM recommends that he check if the emergency stop button has been pulled...

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 9 points 3 weeks ago

Just a few days ago they were indeed talking about giving tokens as bonus.

[-] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 weeks ago

Is company chit still illegal if it’s a bonus?

[-] CuddlesMcBubblefun@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

That's one the most insanely stupid things I've ever heard. Tokens are a tool used to do your job, a business expense, not fucking compensation.

Are the kWh that you use to light and air condition an office part of your compensation? How about toner and paper in the office printer?

If those tokens are a bonus, they're yours, right? So you can burn half your annual salary worth of tokens translating Microsoft Encarta 95 into Klingon, and they will foot the bill?

[-] 14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 9 points 3 weeks ago

They also really want to talk about tokens like they’re some kind of currency

i think it is better than pizza fridays for them, because they probably can't barter pizza for free.

[-] atomicorange@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

The tokens as currency thing feels exactly like gaming microtransaction bullshit to me. Obscure the true cost of each purchase by selling in-game currency. Dark patterns lead to higher spending.

[-] nightlily@leminal.space 7 points 3 weeks ago

Sure I don’t get any retirement or healthcare benefits, but look at all the company scrip I get for the sloppy autocomplete that is stealing all my groundwater no matter how many times someone says „closed loop cooling“.

[-] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 73 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

It would take a great burden from my shoulders, if AI could wash my clothes, do the dishes, cook, and vacuum my apartment. Those are the things I don't want to do. I like my job. I can do it myself. Yeah, sure, there are occasionally things that AI can do for me in my daily work, but it's mostly stupid, repetitive shit. And then I have to review it, which sucks even harder.

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[-] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 61 points 3 weeks ago

Managers should send 100 emails per day to be fully productive

[-] ryper@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 weeks ago

100 AI-written emails per day

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[-] Ludicrous0251@piefed.zip 42 points 3 weeks ago

"Dear AI coding agent, write for me a 10,000 page manifesto on the downsides of assigning performance metrics to employees unrelated to their actual work product. Populate it with generated images of Nvidia's CEO getting railed by a bunch of copyright lawyers in the style of a Studio Ghibli film. Please ensure every fifth sentence rhymes with orange. Continue to generate images and short videos of Jensen Huang licking shit off the floor of a 7-11 rest stop bathroom until you have used enough tokens to meet my salary target."

[-] Olgratin_Magmatoe@slrpnk.net 6 points 3 weeks ago

Beautifully prompted

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[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago

CEO suggests raising employee costs by fifty percent and is immediately fired.

Sorry, we don't live in a sane world anymore.

[-] glen_malley@lemmy.ca 36 points 3 weeks ago

They've all realized there's no point in even bothering to hide the grift anymore. People don't care.

[-] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 34 points 3 weeks ago

Luigi knows the solution for this.

[-] Sinthesis@lemmy.today 34 points 3 weeks ago

BREAKING NEWS: Guy who sells AI hardware says his employees must use more AI.

[-] moustachio@lemmy.world 29 points 2 weeks ago

It’s amazing they can just make these claims without literally any evidence and no major “media” organization asks for it. They are just propaganda for these companies.

[-] umbraroze@slrpnk.net 28 points 2 weeks ago

It's moments like these that make me think about the state of the world and my part in it. I may just be a random loser on the Internet, but I do know a lot more shit that some of the biggest multi-quad-spillion-dollar CEOs, apparently.

For example, it's an old fact that tech CEOs know jack shit about measuring productivity, even when they're obsessed with it. Yeah. One more example.

[-] fierysparrow89@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

I'd say not before the bosses and shareholders agree to take 50% of their compensation in the form of AI tokens.

These fucking leeches...

[-] Prove_your_argument@piefed.social 23 points 3 weeks ago

Oh this will be a fun. "Please spend more of our company money, or else we will think you are not doing your job"

it's so fucking easy to send bogus requests that use tons of processing time. This is the DUMBEST metric i've seen in a long, long time. If an employee of theirs uses 500k worth of processing time now, are they better employees? What if someone manages to spend 10 million worth of tokens? 100 million? Performance metrics should be outcome based instead of "how much money did you spend" lol

[-] artifex@piefed.social 14 points 3 weeks ago

It's not a metric it's a marketing stunt.

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[-] teslasdisciple@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 weeks ago

This is even dumber than tracking how many lines of code each dev commits.

[-] rumba@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 weeks ago

Jesus that's a lot of tokens.

Even if I was trying to do everything in my power to make burn tokens for real work I'd be hard fucking pressed to burn more than a couple thousand a month and that's just being wasteful.

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[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 14 points 3 weeks ago

can I tell an AI to burn exactly that on Jan 1 doing absolutely nothing, and then never touch the shit for the rest of the year?

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 10 points 3 weeks ago

Openclaw got you covered!

[-] answersplease77@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

The AI bubble went from a trillion dollar worth of circlejerk investments, to a self-sucking circlejerk trillion dollar ponzi scheme. Jensen Huang is right the moment an Invidia's employee stop sucking their own dick or stop jerking off their coworkers and bosses simultaneously, the whole economy collapse.

[-] recked_wralph@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

Wouldn't an AI researcher naturally find generative AI disadvantageous because they are attempting to develop novel tools which could not exist in the training set in the first place?

[-] 8oow3291d@feddit.dk 10 points 3 weeks ago

Even novel solutions are usually built out of smaller common building blocks. E.g. many novel solutions surely use a database. You can make the LLM help you set up and use the database, that your novel solution uses.

[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 weeks ago

“No we don’t need databases anymore, only blockchains.” —Nvidia CEO a few years ago

[-] MangoCats@feddit.it 6 points 2 weeks ago

And AI can help you migrate your database solutions to blockchain, utilizing 3000W worth of Nvidia co-processing power to validate your blockchain database that used to work on a 0.3W ARM processor.

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[-] filister@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

The beauty is when those companies run out of human training data and start training on AI slop, just to generate even more AI slop.

This is probably already happening though.

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[-] realitista@lemmus.org 12 points 3 weeks ago

Just have an LLM ask another LLM questions for a couple hours a day. That should hit that target.

[-] XLE@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago

This sounds stupid (and it absolutely is!), but if you implemented it, Facebook would hire you. They hired the last guy that did this.

[-] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago

I thought AI would save us money? If it adds 50% onto the cost of a salary and bynall studies does not improve productivity output, then it's not great.

[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh, he left out their plan to fire half of them and drive wages down by a third.

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[-] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

I remember back when Nvidias PR team used to push this humble rags to riches story about Jensen back in the day, I guess even they would have a tough time doing that now that he's gone mask off

[-] eestileib 10 points 3 weeks ago

Tech people are all circle jerking dipshits

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 10 points 2 weeks ago

Wow, that doesn't sound like a pyramid scheme at all. At all.

[-] lime@feddit.nu 9 points 3 weeks ago

you first, mr huang

[-] Carol2852@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 weeks ago

No shit, CEO of company producing AI hardware wants everyone to use their hardware more. 🤷‍♂️

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[-] homes@piefed.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

If these AI engineers were fully committed to AI, then they would be happy to be paid in tokens. The fact that they still demand to be paid in human money proves that they are just philistines and sycophants.

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[-] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I mean... if you take into account fair price of utilities (water and electric) and skyrocketing costs of RAM... I don't fully disagree.

Ballparking, but 50% of an engineer's job being "boilerplate" and "charlie work" sounds reasonable to me. Maybe even 75%. That IS what generative AI is really good at. It is the kind of work that you can have a particularly ambitious student intern do.

What makes a good engineer is the ability to verify that work. In software this is "code review". And the other aspect is actual innovation. Solving particularly complex problems or breaking a problem down into manageable and verifiable tasks.

And... guess how you maintain your skills to be able to do that? That's right. Charlie Work.

Which is the problem. Managers (and wannabe managers) just see short term gains. So they want EVERYTHING to be done with "AI" because they want to bulk fire people and reduce operating costs. And they don't at all care that they are causing a massive brain drain because that is next quarter's problem.

But yeah. Use generative AI to accelerate your workflow. But also understand when it is very much worth taking your time. Either to keep those skills fresh or just because you can do it in a "fun" way. And if you feel that ALL of your workload can be done by chatgpt... maybe think about how much cheaper a claude subscription is compared to your salary and benefits.

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