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[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 26 points 6 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

May your water always be salted

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 days ago
[-] RAFAELRAMIREZ@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

Honestly, “it’s easier than explaining” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here 😅

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

Why agnostic? Like... If there's no proof, why believe in the existence of a deity at all?

[-] alekwithak@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

For me personally, atheism is saying 'there is nothing more to the universe or reality, what you see is what you get' which is extremely pretentious. Agnosticism is admitting to the possibility that there's something going on here, but we don't know and would likely be incapable of understanding what it is.

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[-] froh42@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I was an agnostic for a very long time.

My main view of things - I couldn't know if there was a god or if there wasn't. But all that ultimate judgement shit never made any sense for me. If you're just behaving decently because of fear of ultimate judgment, then you're not a decent person. Ok if god would want me not to be an asshole, I'd need to be that out of my free will. And if a god demanded adherence to some random rules out of the blue - that god wouldn't have a moral compass and I wouldn't want to have to do anything with them in my life, being smitten down at the end would have been a consequence for me anyways.

I just want to be no asshole. So the question of there's a god or not. I don't care. God is irrelevant.

Thus: agnostic

I started staying I'm an atheist somw time ago, as that's just quicker and I can go by without explaining.

Still - if there's a god around, which is possible but improbable - I'm making sure I make fucking good use of the free will they gave me.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

The issue I had with calling myself "agnostic" is that most Christians think of it as "undecided" (which it isn't), so they'll try to convert you. If you tell them you're an atheist, they're more likely to leave you alone (in my experience).

[-] ech@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Most Christians think athiests just hate god. Basing your stance around irrational people is, itself, irrational.

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago

I don't. I'm still an agnostic. I just don't tell people that if I think they won't understand and it isn't worth the time explaining it to them.

[-] zemo@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

I've always considered agnostics to be atheists who just don't wanna debate. At least that's why I used to call myself an agnostic when I was younger.

[-] Tonava@sopuli.xyz 8 points 6 days ago

I used to say agnostic because at that point all the atheist discussion I saw in public was aggressively anti-theistic, and I found it equally stupid to very strongly believe in either direction about things there's simply no way to know. Now I just say atheist because it doesn't mean only "I hate religion with passion" anymore

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 6 points 6 days ago

i call myself a devout agnostic. the justaposition of those words is inherently absurd since part of agnosticism and identifying as such is believing there is value to studying theology even if you yourself don't believe the theologies you're studying because ultimately prior to colonization, religion was how groups of people encoded and passed along their wisdom. however saying "devout agnostic" throws people enough off balance enough to introduce them to these concepts since so many say with their whole chest that they're something when traditionally these terms have meant something else to the people who use them.

for example, an astounding (at least to me) number of people say quakers and unitarians aren't christians. when you dig down on this you often find that this position is rooted in a believe (both positive and negative) that the fundamental mechanism and experience of christianity is trauma. however, when you look at the broader world of religion, you find that that's mostly only Christian denominations rooted in the theologies of the roman empire such as roman catholicism and the various european orthodoxies like Greek and russian. however, the oldest denomination, Ethiopian Orthodox, would i think to the people who say quakers and unitarians aren't christians, seem very unchistian. for that matter, i think so would Native America Christianity, Oriental Orthodox, and Armenianism. (fun fact, the Unitarian church is rooted in Oriental Orthodox, which is either the second or third oldest christian denomination)

[-] EnsignWashout@startrek.website 2 points 4 days ago

Devotion to agnosticism is beautiful.

To me, it means I will passionately defend another person's right to remain "undecided" on all things spiritual.

It can be surprisingly effective in some circles.

[-] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 4 days ago

i will also strongly defend their right to have faith in something that gives them the strength to get through this messed wp world. i will simply brook no bullshit from anyone who use their theological positions for control, and that includes authoritarian atheists.

[-] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Atheism just means without theism. If you aren't theist, you're atheist. Agnostic describes the position of lacking belief one way or the other. A lack of belief is not the same as a belief in a lack. The vast majority of atheists are agnostic atheists, because the belief that there are positively no deities is just as baseless as the claim that there are deities.

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[-] dev_null@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago

But agnostics don't believe in the existence of a deity. Are you maybe confusing it with deism?

[-] HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

You can be an agnostic deist. Agnostic just means you have no firm belief. Most people who identify as "nones" in polls are technically agnostic, even if they personally believe in a higher power. Its a lack of certainty.

Most atheists are also technically agnostic atheists. A gnostic athiest would be someone who holds the absence of any higher being or spirituality as an almost axiomatic belief. Though they merely can be so certain that the small chance they're wrong seems irrelevant to them.

[-] zaperberry@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 days ago

For simplicity, I've always explained agnosticism as the belief that "I don't know and neither do you".

[-] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 days ago

Agnosticism isn't a lack of certainty; it's a lack of knowledge. I am agnostic about many, many things. For example, Bigfoot. I haven't seen any good evidence for the existence of Bigfoot (i.e., I have no knowledge of the existence of Bigfoot), so I don't believe in Bigfoot. I'm the same way with the existence of gods.

Eh, I think there's a decent semantic dispute for it. It's of course dependent on your definition of deity and is mostly an exercise of pedantry. However, with the size of the universe I think there's a pretty decent chance that there exists an intellectual being that could be interpreted as being god-like to the human perspective.

Now I'm not making claims that this proposed being has ever had anything to do with humans, nor are they responsible for any universal creation. Just that the universe is big enough for the existence of something significantly more advanced than humans. That being said, the size of the universe that allows for the possibility of this proposal also makes it possible existence mostly pedantic.

[-] HoopyFrood@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

We might be early, from how i understand the age of the universe. If we don’t great filter ourselves out of existence soon we may become the elder species. The universe is remarkably young

[-] saimen@feddit.org 2 points 6 days ago

Atheism is just another belief

[-] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Reading comprehension ain't your strong suit, is it?

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[-] 0x0@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 days ago

Sithrak is the only one true god.

[-] MissJinx@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

.. and piracy! yeah

[-] justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago

As in the R.E.M. song: "boobs are my religion"

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