Also not that it matters anymore but the Supreme Court already ruled it unconstitutional a long time ago as it's a form of poll tax. Remember when Supreme Court decisions weren't just "whatever Trump wants today" and actually were based on the constitution? Pepperidge Farms remembers.

It's curious why they would want to implement this because although it affects poor people, it would probably also disproportionately affect poor Republicans.

Many voters in states like Mississippi/Arkansas do not have passports because they are both poor and have no intention to travel internationally so don't bother with passports.

I am not from the US, so I'm also mentally comparing with what happens in my country. Here, the place where you're registered to vote has a list of all voter names and birth dates. You get there to vote, show a form of valid ID (driver's license is a valid one), you can vote and you're crossed off the list so you can't vote twice. You don't need to prove citizenship directly because if you don't have the right to vote, you're not on the list.

How does it work in the US? Citizenship aside, how do you prove that you are who you say you are and don't e.g. wear a hat and fake moustache and vote 3 times? Honest question, I'm not judging, I'm genuinely trying to understand how things work today in the US.

and if someone is making minimum wage or close to it they almost certainly aren’t getting paid time off, so now they have to come up with $130 for the fee and lose time off work.

A passport card is only $30 (plus the $10 or so dollars for the required photo), but everything else in your post is spot on.

While I don't think this should ever pass, I think a huge issue is we're too close to the election to be changing how voting works. People could vote in the primaries and then not have the documents to vote in the actual election. Something like this would need to be phased in over time, just think about how long Real IDs took to implement.

That's been their behavior continuously since the country's founding. This is nothing new.

The best time to get out was last year. The next best time is now.

I've been trying to float the idea of voters showing up to the polls armed. Everyone who has a firearm, carry it to vote. Not in a threatening manner, no waving them around, just... Everyone who has one is armed.

Trump uses mail in voting in Florida.

Same with Utah

He will get this passed, or do it with some sort of executive order. Most left leaning states will ignore these things as they constitutionally have no power. And trump will use that at a reason to invalidate those states's votes entirely. This will cause violent protests. Trump will bring in the military and declare marshal law. We will then have a dictatorship with trump and his sons as dictators for generations.

How do you get your ID document? Does it cost a lot to get? Does any official look at perfectly valid ID and say "I don't think that's real, so you don't get to vote"?

We have no national ID here, the closest thing to prove citizenship is a passport but people are not required to have one, and it is expensive. For most people, the only definitive proof of citizenship they have is their original birth certificate.

That is why here, in the US, when politicians push Voter ID laws it's mainly to disenfranchise poor people.

Because the hoops they make you jump through to get one are fucking ridiculous.

I'm a US citizen. I was a born here. I have a driver's license and a US-issued passport. Both of these are current and I had to prove citizenship to get the passport.

I'm still not able to legally vote in my state, though, because the law now requires that my driver's license, which doesn't expire for 4 years, have a Gold Star on it. No gold star, you can't vote.

I now have to make an appointment and drive to a licensing station in another city to get my Gold Star license in order to vote. I have to bring my still-valid passport, two pieces of mail, and a copy of my birth certificate. I can't even vote in a primary if I don't do that first.

I was born here, I haven't changed my name or moved, this is just the law now. They just really don't want people to be able to vote.

as others have stated the US doesn't have what other countries would consider a national ID. they have a Drivers License and a Passport, that's it. I think some states might have a regular photo ID but I'm not sure it's been several years since I lived in the US. and then some people have like a military ID.

The problem is other than the Passport none of those are proof of citizenship. None citizens can get a drivers license, none citizens can serve in the military, none citizens can even get a social security number/card. So the only way to prove citizenship is like Passport or Birth Certificate. Not even sure how US Citizens who became citizens after landing would prove it and with how ICE is that would be an extremely risky thing to present/prove when going to vote.

So then you have the problem that A. Not everyone has/can afford a Passport and B. not everyone has a Birth Certificate or their name has changed on it or their gender has changed, etc.

Thus when you consider all these things you then realize that voting in the US only a fraction of the US population would be 100% eligible. and EVEN then they could deny you for whatever reason they deemed fit. And even just requiring a passport and birth certificate it's easy to then figure out WHO they're targeting based on demographics. Low income people aren't going to have a passport, like it or not a majority of Black Americans aren't going to have one, Trans people won't be eligible, Women who married likely won't be if they took their spouses last name, people who were adopted, all US citizens that became one after immigrating to the US, etc, etc, etc.

This is proof of citizenship. Not drivers license or proof of age. Passport, birth cert plus supporting, citizenship cert and supporting. Discrepancy between the latter two options resulting from change of name could disqualify voters.

"Nine percent of American citizens, or approximately 21 million people, don’t have ready access to citizenship documents."

Then you have my country where you enroll to vote, which requires id, lasts forever and you only have to update your address. On the day the volunteer looks up my given name on a ledger for my area, asks for my address and phone number, then explains how to write my vote.

Yeah govt doing absolutely nothing is pretty typical