I dont keep a budget. But my algorithm is basically dont buy anything except food.
Same. If I have to buy anything else, I check my account first. And I use cash a lot and always check my account before withdrawing.
That's me. It's simple. You live a cheap life with a good career
I never had an official budget. I knew how much I made and made sure I spent significantly less than that.
At what age are we supposed to stop doing this?
Long time ago I had the benefit of spending a couple years in banking. Bankers have a very different attitude about money than most people since for a bank, money is the "product."
The most valuable thing I learned from that experience was that in order to be in control of my finances, I had to have a clear understanding of what my money is "doing." Just being able to get that insight has been enough to keep me relatively on top of my book keeping.
sounds like something people with leftover money do
the change is pretty stark, when you go from living paycheck to paycheck to suddenly getting a choice again.
I don't have any money but I still do it.
I squeeze pennies so hard they need therapy and always have. I remember loaning money to my older siblings to buy game systems and fund dates.
Ever since I saw a documentary on the great depression and spoke to my grandmother about what it was like to live through it I started noticing that we as a country we're not doing so great. I've been working and saving most of my money since I was in first grade, but by middle school I just decided to abstain from almost every kind of expense I could.
I've never struggled financially but that's because I learned that you don't need to buy much stuff if you make your own, can live on less, and have a pervasive crippling anxiety about the collapse of western civilization.
So yeah I've been running on the vibe "The Great depression is coming again and there's no way I can save enough to be prepared"
This has earned me a meager modest lifestyle, but my family eats very well, has a clean home, and has plenty of modern luxuries and toys even if some of them might be a bit worn, rough around the edges, or unfashionable.
I didn't have to learn to live on lentils but I did have to give up on things my parents found very accessible like restaurants, travel, new things, packaged food, college, free time, bars, weekends, my own room, cars, movie theaters, most museums and non-critical medical care.
So yeah, I guess compared to my peers I'm crushing it because in all of my frugality I managed to avoid racking up six figures of college debt! I'll never own a house though.
that's deeply sad :( you've denied yourself so much, and you still can't even afford your own house. at that point why care? why not enjoy things like eating out, travel, or non-critical medical care?
if another great depression comes everyone will be fucked no matter their wealth. but most people will at least get to keep memories of little luxuries, whilst you already live like the world collapsed
You don't have to spend a lot to live richly. By making all of my own food I eat a wonderful variety of a healthy things everyday. All the food is fresh prepared by me, canned by me, or bespoke junk.
Besides, within walking distance of where I live now there are acres of wild grapes and raspberries and you can eat the fish from the water. The wild turkeys out here are comically inept, I bet I could harvest more than my family would ever need with a couple of rocks a day. They are such funny little creatures and none too bright but I did see one out run/hover a mountain lion.
making all my own food isn't really feasable for me with my level of executive dysfunction. even one self made meal a day is a win
I have a budget. I regularly ignore it.
I've fallen back on putting the bills due for the next week on my calendar every payday. Just to remind myself to do that before I spend the remainder irresponsibly.
I'm 45 and I've spent more time on my diet (in the form of sodium and calorie budget(s)) than any sort of financial budget.
That said, my vices are relatively inexpensive, my jobs have generally paid very well, and I do check my various accounts without being prompted.
I think personal budgets (including my dieting) are best thought of as attempts to solve specific problems, not some sort of mandatory / expected behavior.
If you are getting dinged with overdraft fees or CC interest etc., a budget might get you to a better place than you are on "just vibes".
Who needs budgets when you have terrible anxiety about spending money
the only cure is buying shiny new thing™️
Better to buy second hand shiny thing to save money.
My budget has been "don't spend too much" for the last 10 years and it's worked out wonderfully. You don't need a clever laid out plan, you just need to ask yourself "how can I spend even less ?"
Cancel every subscription immediately unless you actually need it. Pirate everything. Get everything on sale or thrift it. Either buy the cheapest thing you can, or spend enough to buy the indestructible version you'll keep for 15-20 years. Fix problems immediately for cheap before they get expensive.
As a result I'm still managing to save up money while my income is under 10K a year.
For tools you need it is so important to keep in mind that if:
you definitely need it only once - get the cheap one.
you will use it in the future - get the expensive one that laborers use.
Cheap tools are a money and a time sink
there's no point to a budget if you minimize all costs anyways, and it means i get a surprise amount left over at the end of every month which i can do whatever i want with.
Which is usually just letting it pile up because i don't know if my welfare will be denied at some point and having that buffer means i can afford to replace things every now and then.
I spent late 20s and early 30s living on 25k a year. I now make 4x that, I still live like I make 25k. My budget plan is to live like I'm pore
live like I'm pore
soaking in lots of moisturising creams then i assume?
Yeah I'm at 5x what I started out with and I'm broke as shit, maybe I'm lying a little bit, I have savings now but for the last 2 years it hasn't grown at all. Although I now have more responsibilities that accounts for some of the increase in spending, I'm fully aware that as I made more, I normalized spending more.
My mother always said if you make a million dollars a day but spend a million and one you are still a pauper
What do you mean "budget"?
It's like a parakeet, I think.
Ahh, makes sense. thanks.
Iol, is it supposed to be done in any other way than vibes?
You don't need a budget, just a crippling sense of guilt about spending money on anything other than the absolute essentials...
Basically my financial situation is:
Me work.
Me get paid.
Banana purchase.
Repeat.
I too am an ape
The worst part is that I love math and numbers...just hate money and having to worry about it.
I'm frugal by nature. For most of my life I've always had enough savings to buy almost anything I want. Whenever I get a "bonus" from somewhere, I'm not even tempted to go on a spending spree - it doesn't enable me to buy anything I couldn't have already bought anyway. I'm way more excited about seeing the value of my investments go up than I would be about a new iPhone or whatever.
I live in an old house, wear old clothes, drive an old truck, never travel, never eat out, etc. I guess I just value different things than some other people. I'd rather be financially secure and look poor than the other way around.
I have a math brain; I do not, however, have a brain that can make plans or follow them consistently
I feel like there's a certain minimum income level/social safety net you need to have to be able to live like this. Like at some point the desire to keep having food/shelter becomes enough of a motivating factor that you have to work out what you need to do.
I pretented I just had less money than i actually had.
Studies and unemployment have coached me to use money minimally in daily life. As a result I can afford some pricy things with still modest means.
God no. I got in so much debt with ADHD and no budget. Finding YNAB saved my ass and allowed me to buy a house right before it became impossible to do so. Now I won't pay YNABs insane prices but I still use the same methods.
But obviously I have ADHD so I've had to restart that budget many many times. I've forgotten about it multiple times over the last 13 years. But I'm finally consistent with it. I check it when I'm going to make a big purchase, I know my general what I need weekly, and I fully review it every pay day (or you know, 2 days later shhh).
My wife got us on YNAB, and we were able to pay off her student loans within a few years. We are only able to eat and afford clothes because of her immense efforts with YNAB.
Although, the insane prices are indeed becoming unbearable. I'm also getting more concerned about privacy and their priorities as a company. I'd love to switch to Actual Budget, but there are just a few features on which my wife completely relies which don't exist in AB.
I frequently check my bank account and use vibes to largely take care of my finances. It isn't completely optimized or strict, but it works since my bills are predictable.
Putting longer term savings into CDs is something I've found to be helpful. I can get to the money if an emergency came up, but otherwise I treat that as my untouchable savings, so i get some artificial scarcity in the mix.
I don't think I even check my account enough. My coworkers look at me in horror when I tell them that I just sort of eyeball the bank account every now and then to see that the approximate amount was put in.
...and, honestly? Fuck their thinking anyway. I know they aren't breaking out calculator, pen&paper, or even chatfuckpt to ensure the pennies are exactly matching. Knowing that I can spend $5 once a month on a game, or pay for a prescription, isn't exactly hard. I just always keep way under what any budget would tell me anyway. I don't need a budget to tell me how much to put away for retirement, that shit is going the way of the dodo here soon.
I’m a mathematician. My math brain shuts off when the units are in currency.
Theres loads of ways to manage your spending without a budget, more effective for most people too.
A good budget won't tell you how not to spend your money, it should tell you how you can spend your money.
People hear the word budget and think it means tightening the belt and cutting back but that doesn't have to be the case. Your income doesn't change when you go on a budget so all you're gaining is clarity as to where your money is going.
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