Lol wtf is Harris doing here?

Please don’t run Harris again.

Harris needs to retire. You don’t lose to Trump and get to run again.

There is no way they run her again fuck they can't actually be that inept. If they do it again I will genuinely take it as evidence that their goal is to lose.

IF this is the slate, Democrats have already lost.

AOC might be able to do it. She'd need to start now, and its going to need to be a people powered campaign. They work fundamentally differently than corporate donation powered campaigns. Any other form of candidate or campaign will be to submit to fascism entirely.

Advocating for any of the other names is about as much as advocating for Republicans directly. They wont win.

Some alternatives:

• Ro Khanna

• Graham Platner (he'd be have been only been in the senate for 2yrs, but he's got the potential)

• Chris Van Hollen

• Abdul El-Sayed

• Dean Phillips

• John Conyers

• Jon Stewart

• Shri Thanedar

The next president will be both M4A and Abolish ICE or they'll be a Republican.

Polls are not the mechanism parties use to “pick” candidates. That’s just not how the process works. Pollsters aren’t arms of the DNC or the RNC. They’re independent firms measuring name recognition and voter preference at a given moment, and the only way to do that is by giving respondents a fixed list of relevant, high visibility figures. It’s a methodological constraint, not a political command.

The real issue is subtler. Media ecosystems amplify a handful of names, donors flock to whoever looks viable, and voters often gravitate toward whoever they’ve heard of. That creates a feedback loop where the visible become even more visible. But polls are downstream from that loop, not upstream. They reflect the landscape; they don’t choose it.

If you want to critique the system, aim at the actual gatekeepers. Ballot access rules, debate thresholds, fundraising networks, and media exposure do far more to narrow the field than a Rasmussen questionnaire ever will. Blaming the poll is mistaking the thermometer for the weather.

They'll run Weekend at Biden's before they let AOC have a go.

People are irredeemable idiots if AOC is that low. Shapiro is literally IDF. Newsom and Harris are pro genocide. Booker is another pro genocide traitor

I hate to tell you, but a hardcore progressive will not be nominated. As they always do, the party leadership will decide that the way to beat MAGA is to be MAGA.

Stop obsessing over the presidency. You want revolution? All politics is local. Start by putting younger progressives on planning commissions, school boards. Move up to city councils, county supervisor. Then start taking state offices. You have to elect progressives to local offices for name recognition.

I understand the point of view but could you imagine a “write the name of the person who should be president here _____ “ system would work? I would feel so bad for ballot counters in that race.

I need to create a bot that adds "... in the US" to every post of US Americans.

The illusion of choice.

This plan didn't work with Trump in 2016. Republicans rammed him in where he wasn't (shouldn't have been) welcome because they refused to allow any other candidate. In the same election, Democrats let their party officials to ram Hillary through because the party wouldn't accept Bernie.

Suggest we find someone WE like and do what Republicans did. It doesn't matter if it's an "outsider" or not, but I'd appreciate it if we could not pick a child rapist and sex trafficker, kthx!

I genuinely think our candidate hasn't really made themselves known to be willing to run yet. I don't think it's AOC this time, though I think she's got what it takes to do the job. I don't think it's Harris, people still feel burned by 2020. I hope we can do better than Newsom.

Kinda still want to draft Jon Stewart because he genuinely gives a fuck, can communicate like few others, knows how to be damned serious when he needs to be, and if he were on that list today he'd be near the top if not at it, just like that. And when asked, he didn't say no. We could do far worse and still be okay.

But yeah, I'm waiting to see what happens. I don't think the candidate I want that I'm sure will win is on the field yet. But I hope AOC is the running mate, whoever that person winds up being.

If Harris wanted to be a viable nominee, she'd be out there making waves and making news, instead of making some bullshit website "to appeal to the next generation of voters". Newsom is gunning for the nomination, but he's a bullshit corporatist putting on a thin veneer. Shapiro is Jewish and there are too many concerns about Israel's genocide for him to win the left and too many conspiracies about Jewish space lasers for him to appeal across party lines.

I'd love AOC, tbh; I just fear the racism and sexism that lost earlier elections would lose here as well.

Democrats spent years neglecting State and County elections to focus their main attention on flashy National races that could bring in big donors. Coupled with how Democrats with name recognition like to park their asses in Congress until they're frail and elderly, never making way for the next generation, there's just not a deep pool of talent to draw on for the Presidency.

AOC is the candidate I see available who would be the best suited for the actual White House but I have doubts she could win the Primary or the General. Gavin might be electable but his problems are deep enough they might discourage folks Left of Center from backing him and I really wouldn't want him in the White House anyways. Mark Kelly is getting his name tossed around. I don't know enough about him to know how I'd feel about electing him. He might be electable though. He's getting National name recognition with his battle against Hegseth. He's a moderate and a military veteran with appeal among Independents. He doesn't seem to have any real controversies and he's new enough to politics to not have alot of baggage or strong negative opinions attached to him (though that could change in 3 years). JB Pritzker being a billionaire would hurt him among Leftists but he could win both the Primaries and General I think. His wealth could help him rally support from both the Upper Classes and Democratic party insiders. His relative lack of controversy or strong negative opinions about him would help him in the General as would his growing name recognition on the National stage. Plus he's isn't afraid to go for the political jugular when he needs too. Personally don't want a Billionaire as president but I would prefer him over Newsom. And Kamala is a joke. She'll have even less support this time then last time. If super delegates start to rally around her, you'll know for a fact she's the controlled opposition candidate.

The AOC at 7% is sort of confusing.

Personally I don't think the establishment would acknowledge her candidacy. And the maga terrorists would lose their collective minds if she was elected.

A democratic socialist, woman, youngest candidate in history, millennial, Puerto Rican, and probably a lot of other things they hate. I'm sure much like when they flipped their shit out over Obama, this would be much worse

Fuck Harris. I'd vote for a blue Smurf than her. Gimme something you retarded Dems!

i mean its not political parties picking it's a right wing polling outlet pushing a push poll

The FDR quote is extremely dubious; I've never seen any actual source showing that he said it. If anything, FDR was very vocal about the importance of elections. You might prefer this great, authentic one for future use, though:

An election cannot give a country a firm sense of direction if it has two or more national parties which merely have different names but are as alike in their principles and aims as peas in the same pod.

—FDR, Fireside Chat, June 24, 1938

The tweet, of course, is fucking nonsense. Here's the wording used in the survey:

(Asked of 499 Voters Who Are More Likely To Vote In The Democratic Presidential Primary) If the 2028 Democratic Primary Election were held today, and the presidential candidates were Kamala Harris, California Gov. Gavin Newsom, New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro, Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, Maryland Gov. Wes Moore and former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg, who would you vote for?

As far as I can tell, this was not commissioned by "they" (the DNC). Who the fuck else were Rasmussen supposed to include? Genuinely, that statistically any of those 499 voters would have picked and are likely to run in 2028? That is a very plausible list of candidates, and the only absence I can think of who has any buzz is Mark Kelly. This isn't manufacturing consent; this is a poll designed to return useful data. "Instead of deciding who you want"? Yeah, no shit; that's because primaries are limited to people who are popular and determined enough to get on the ballot. Would it have actually made a difference if they'd put "Other (please specify)"? Not realistically, no, and you're lying to yourself if you think otherwise.

If anything, not including a list of candidates would likely even further centralize the responses around one or two well-known candidates, because most voters aren't familiar enough with politics to keep track of potential primary candidates.

This complaint is incoherent.

Please tell me this isn't real, they aren't polling already, with Harris out in front?

We learned nothing. I know the establishment learned nothing, they are as arrogant in passing the buck onto voters for their bad status quo candidates. Because she's a minority woman it's ok they lost, because everyone's a racist sexist. Is the subtext.

Of course she was widely hated, including by woman and blacks, and lost ground with all groups. But the establishment taught the sheep to bleet that part, and they are repeating it in loud chorus, bleeting at anyone wanting a change of strategy, saying it's them to blaaaaaaa me for not believing hard enough.

It's way too early to even be thinking about this, but Harris is out. Newsome is out, for not throwing his hat in the ring in 2024 when we needed someone that could win, and he could with a little populist platforming. Hell Harris could've won, if she attacked some groups cheating us and forcefully and convincingly told us she would fix healthcare and drugs.

We cannot even have that though. The rich won't allow us what every other country in the developed world gets, even as the only alternative is guarenteed death of the republic permanent dictatorship of the worst people in the world fully intent on putting people into concentration camps if they get support to do it.