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Democratic Primary: Which ever one in the top-two that's more progressive
General: Democratic nominee
I mean that kinda is the only strategy
You could register Republican, then vote in the Republican primary for the less evil candidate.
Then in the general election vote for the Democratic nominee.
Although I don't think many people are doing that, so maybe there's a flaw in that strategy
I simply don’t believe the GOP is possible to save at this point. So I’d never do that.
This wouldn't be about saving the GOP. They aren't going to collapse any time soon, and I don't think they are morally saveable either.
It's just about getting two chances at avoiding the greatest possible evil.
Conservatives are bad. But MAGA-progressives are downright evil.
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Actually I have a better voting strategy:
But the moral prohibition on siding with any administration that endorses genocide will force a different flavor of the exact same logic that centrist liberalism has depended on for so long: hold your nose and align with the least worst thing. Only the least worst thing will no longer be the mild, ethics-agnostic emptiness of modern Western liberalism, nor will it be the multitude of barbaric authoritarians and their secret prisons. It will be communal solidarity, or else nothing, a walking away from all of this. Countless otherwise pragmatic people who would in any other circumstance choose liberalism by default will instead decide none of this is worth the damage to one’s soul. They will instead support no one, vote for no one, wash their hands of any ordering of the world that results in choices no better than this. And the obvious centrist refrain—But do you want the deranged right wing to win?—should, after even a moment of self-reflection, yield to a far more important question: How empty does your message have to be for a deranged right wing to even have a chance of winning? Of all the epitaphs that may one day be written on the gravestone of Western liberalism, the most damning is this: Faced off against a nihilistic, endlessly cruel manifestation of conservatism, and somehow managed to ~~make it c~~lose.
— Omar El-Akkad, One Day Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This, correction mine.
So what is your plan to actually achieve goals? Protest? A coup d'etat? Civil war?
Do you think archiving those goals in a MAGA-autocracy will be easier than in a less evil system?
How many lives is that sort of change worth?
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Never republican. Prior to that, whichever Democrat says they will reign hell fire.
Disbanding ICE, disbanding TSA, slashing CBP, cutting military 75+%, expanding the supreme court by 10+ seats, expanding DOJ for that massive backlog of criminal prosecutions, forcing better vote methodologies, forcing a constitutional convention (new branches of government, independent DOJ, independent science research, independent health), encouraging new states (DC, Guam, Puerto Rico) to join the union to fix Senate proportions, remove electoral college, add in mechanisms for national no-confidence votes, healthcare as a right, etc. There's a lot more heh.
Getting rid of the TSA would be such a helpful step forward better air travel.
Most countries' airport security is to some extent modelled after the TSA, and was done in lockstep with the US increasing "travel safety" via invasive processes. Obviously it is toned back A LOT, but if the US were to get rid of the TSA and provide more lax regulations on air travel, most international countries would follow.
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How about using that constitutional convention to turn the US into a socialist republic (or a "Cooperative Republic")?
I'd do more than that
Disband DHS. This agency was never required and was created merely as a knee-jerk to the information sharing problems that contributed to how 9/11 turned out.
Ironically, the majority of those problems were actually between the FBI and CIA and DHS has no authority over either
that role was handled to the also-newly-created Director of National Intelligence (DNI)
Sooooo we never needed the orwellian DHS in the first place
Abolish ICE, HSI and CBP*. The the other constituent agencies carry on as they did before 9/11 and leave the LE/intelligence coordination to the DNI
*Some folks would love to see ATF go, others want the end of TSA
You would actually trust a Democrat that came forward like that? We can even get them to commit not being assholes.
Not Republican is the only qualifier if you're a sane person.
That tactic hasn't worked very well for the DNC, their only policy for the last 10 years is we are not Trump, despite every other indicator showing that they are.
great, go vote for the greater of two evils and tell me how well that goes for you. Oh wait, we've seen what happens then
50 years of liberal 'lesser evil' has led to where we are right now. A small acceptable evil allows a slightly larger one the next time.
Your incrementalism gave us incremental fascism.
So you're blaming Dems being weak for Republicans being fascist?
Next are you going to blame the rape victim for not fighting back hard enough?
Dems haven't done enough. That doesn't mean they made this all happen. Republicans made this happen. Period.
Fascism doesn't happen in a vacuum. Historically every time it's raised its head it's been with the complicity of liberals.
Claiming that Dems are not strong enough to fight back Republicans is not an effective argument to support them. That's a reason to refuse to support them
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their only policy for the last 10 years is we are not Trump, despite every other indicator showing that they are.
Criticize the Dems. I'm not saying they don't deserve it.
But that statement is irresponsible. Dangerous even.
The last time Dems were in power American citizens weren't being executed in the streets in broad daylight by an immigration agency 1300 miles from the southern border. The last Dem president wasn't sending a Gestapo into American cities to terrorize American citizens to instigate pushback so he could cancel elections. The last Dem president didn't corruptly use the National Guard to take over Washington DC. The last Dem president didn't instruct his DOJ to openly defy the law.
I can't believe this continues to need to be repeated but THEY ARE NOT THE SAME.
Democrats were helping build the infrastructure and creating the tools necessary for trump to take these actions. While you were at brunch Biden increased ice funding to the highest level they've ever received, he boosted detention center construction, he helped local police build cop cities. Bill Clinton's expedited removal allowed immigrants be denied due process, a measure Obama used on 75% of those he deported. Obama/Biden built the cages trump kept kids in. ICE is collecting a database of faces of protesters to be cataloged and maintained by Palentir, who Democrats have a very cozy relationship with.
In just a few days Schumer will help muster the votes needed to boost ICE funding again.
No matter how many times you want to shout it, they are the same.
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A 3rd party candidate that can't possibly win because they're from a non-viable party that isn't actually trying to be viable and who has zero representatives in Congress.
Or maybe I just wouldn't vote. It's all so corrupt anyway.
PSYCHE!!!
I'm not a fucking blithering idiot. I'd vote for the candidate most likely to defeat Republicans/Fascists. So the Dem candidate. Whatever Dem candidate.
Because I'm not a fucking idiot.
I would vote for whichever candidate that has firm, unflinching, support for Trans, NB and GNC people. Someone who will rescind every EO (with special focus on anti-LGBT orders), return our dignity and sense of belonging, and vow to veto any and all anti-LGBTQ+ pieces of legislation.
This is of course in addition to abolishing ICE.
Fat chance of either, unfortunately.
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I wouldn't be able to.
But if I could, I would vote for the Democrat nominee. The voting system of the USA is a bit screwed, and voting for anyone but the better of the two most popular candidates is a wasted vote.
Mamdani.
Unfortunately the constitution prohibits him from ever becoming president, since he was not a US citizen at birth.
The constitution didn't prevent a felon and rapist from becoming a president. It didn't prevent far-right militias from being combatted, nor fully abolishes slavery. I say the constitution is dead and needs to be replaced by one in where socialist and democratic principles prevail.
Yeah, count me in on that. The current constitution disallows non natural-born US citizens for life while not disallowing candidates with a criminal record in any way (except 14th amendment section 3 but thats very narrow). Make it make sense. But this will be a huge obstacle in practice nonetheless.
They did that so you don't have political opponents using the courts to make up some random charges against their opponents. It makes perfect sense. The people failed and voted for the grand ol pedophile...the constitution didn't make them.
Not if a certain orange is held at gunpoint and shown the correspondence evidence he's trying to destroy. For legal purposes, not that I condone it or anything.
*in Minecraft, of course
To quote Jeopardy host Ken Jennings,
The “prosecute the former regime at every level” candidate has my vote in 2028.
Since we're stuck with the two parties at the moment it'll need to be a Democrat.
Mark Kelly has mentioned interest and seems to be willing to fight back, so I'm leaning towards him at the moment.
But it's early so I'm open to candidates who meet the first requirement.
Any politician that has put their own safety on the line. I don't care if they ratiod Trump on truth social or even took him to court. People with far less privilege are showing up on the front lines to demand accountability, we should expect nothing less from our leaders.
I'll vote for the candidate that I think is going to do the most to advance the policy goals I'd like. Right now that happens to be the opposite of everything the GoP is doing, and half of what the Dems are doing.
Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho
Not the GoP. Not the green party, at least with Stein still around. Not the dems after all their nonsense. So... I don't know; we'll have to see who runs. The "good" news for anyone disliking my selections is that the (heavily-Gerrymandered) district means my vote will almost certainly mean fuck all anyway (assuming they don't come up with some bullshit to throw out overseas votes to begin with since I can't really do anything about that).
Greta Thunberg
Oh and by the way there will be an election in 2028
Hope springs eternal!
It's been only one year of Trump and I'm not sure of that.
I have the baseless theory that ICE is only an excuse to hire and arm like mined individuals that will fight and kill to protect Trump the day he announces no more elections.
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JB Pritzker I just think he would be a solid candidate
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