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[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 218 points 1 month ago

Make movies that are engaging enough to keep people from checking their feeds while they wait for something to happen.

[-] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 73 points 1 month ago

That doesn't sound very streamlined or profitable to me.

[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 60 points 1 month ago

I dunno man, I can't get my friends to watch some stellar movies because their attention span has been shot over time.

Believe it or not, they'll watch crappier movies because they don't need to pay attention.

[-] muffedtrims@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

Can't right now, ow my balls is on.

[-] village604@adultswim.fan 44 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Part of it is the movie, but a large part is that short form video trains your brain to need frequent dopamine fixes. A 5 second video does that, while a 90 minute movie might not give it until the climax.

It's not much different than a smoker taking a break during a movie.

[-] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago

If someone starts a movie and immediately pulls their phone out or starts cleaning, that’s on them.

And movies absolutely should not be made to cater to addiction. Nothing should, except for something explicitly designed to help people recover from addiction.

When movies have a good idea and are given the proper attention to make them well, regular people won’t be checking the time or reading blogs when they become bored. The problem is that studios say that, good idea or not, proper attention to the craft or not, we’re making this many movies this year. We’re lucky if a few of those movies are something future generations would consider good.

Matt Damon is suggesting that movies be made even worse than they already are.

[-] BremboTheFourth@piefed.ca 31 points 1 month ago

Matt Damon is suggesting

It definitely reads more as "Netflix execs suggest and Matt Damon complains about"

[-] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

I can't stand short videos. I won't even watch videos that aren't an hour or longer myself. I don't get these shorts, it's so unsatisfying.

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[-] IWW4@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

Oh fucking please.. that has nothing to do with it.

[-] MotoAsh@piefed.social 8 points 1 month ago

lol yea, toootally nothing to do with it. That's why nobody ever talks about great movies, and movies toooootally aren't getting longer nad longer... yep, totally not a quality to attention thing.

Not like there are legendary movies that are several hours long that people still watch... Yep, quality has nothing to do with how long people stay engaged with movies!

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[-] reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net 123 points 1 month ago

I find shows and movies that show something happen clearly and then restate it in the dialogue immediately quite annoying. Very common in anime.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 79 points 1 month ago

Wait, you're telling me that restating dialog makes you annoyed, especially because it happens so frequently in anime?

[-] yakko@feddit.uk 36 points 1 month ago

In anime, you should expect repetitive exposition. Can it be that Netflix has gained this power, too?

[-] Hexarei@beehaw.org 9 points 1 month ago

Netflix has gained the power of repetitive exposition? Such a feat has only been attained by anime before! One should expect it there, but now it's really bothering OP!

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[-] SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social 8 points 1 month ago

Some YouTube channels do this and I started to hide them in the recommendations because it pisses me off so much.

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[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 70 points 1 month ago

Make content that makes people put their phones down.

[-] Triasha@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

This is part of the genius of kpop demon hunters. It moves fast, sometimes frenetically.

[-] Switorik@lemmy.zip 65 points 1 month ago

This is what kills any articles on the web. The first three paragraphs repeat the question you're looking to get answered and the last paragraph vaguely answers it.

I feel like an old person now but I've started watching movies from the 90s/2000s and I can't believe how much worse movies have become over the years.

[-] criss_cross@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago
[-] rhombus@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Also the more repetition the more room on the page for ad spots. Same reason so many Youtubers restate the same shit almost verbatim over and over and over; it pads the video so Youtube can cram in more ad spots.

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[-] BaraCoded@literature.cafe 61 points 1 month ago

Writer insight : if people start pulling their phone when they should be watching your movie, it means your movie is shit, not that it should be made even sloppier. Watered down shit is still a shit cocktail.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 50 points 1 month ago

Is that why the last season of Stranger Things spent half the season rehashing how all the characters had felt about anything ever throughout the previous four seasons?

[-] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 month ago

I think re-explaining things that happened in previous seasons is a different issue. They're worried that you don't remember what happened because it has been so long.

And that's fair. I know I watched Season 2 (and it definitely had my full attention, because I'm incapable of doing two things at once), but the only thing I can actually remember about it is the episode where El went to Chicago and met some shadowrunners. And something about tunnels. Everything else is a blur.

[-] DeliciousDoorknob@piefed.social 19 points 1 month ago

The last season being a big mess aside, it was 100% guilty of re-explaining the plot, not just the recaps. Together with those unnecessary "LET ME EXPLAIN" scenes, like Robin using vinyls to explain a very basic concept. They really treated us like idiots. 

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[-] Ilandar@lemmy.today 11 points 1 month ago

That was definitely part of it, but I think they also wrote themselves into a corner in previous seasons by not properly laying the groundwork for any of the supernatural stuff. In Season 5, they had to constantly infodump the viewers in those "plan" scenes to keep up.

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 10 points 1 month ago

What, do you expect the audience to pay attention and infer how characters are feeling based on things like subtle body cues? What like acting?

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[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 month ago

Why? What the fuck do they care as long as people watch it?

Make good stuff, and people will come.

[-] FishFace@piefed.social 18 points 1 month ago

People will leave if they don't like what they see. People won't like what they don't understand. People won't understand what isn't either simple or redundantly written because they don't pay attention.

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[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago

Seriously. Plus maybe I wouldn't have my phone out if they didn't start plopping ads into shows.

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[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 month ago

I wouldn't have my phone out to begin with Netflix if you didn't start adding ads.

[-] BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

🏴‍☠️

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[-] FreddiesLantern@leminal.space 33 points 1 month ago

It’s the big tech social media disease.

Everyone, frigging everyone who steps away from fb/insta/twittler/yt/tiktok/… says the same “holy shit my mind is so peaceful all of a sudden.” And somehow it’s not substantially part of the daily discourse. Somehow between that and EVERYTHING else these mfrs are responsible for (protecting pedos, encouraging insurrections, …) just flies.

It’s a disease, an addiction, a plague and we gotta start naming it as such. Talk to your loved ones and carefully try to get them off that shit.

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[-] ambientdread@lemmy.world 33 points 1 month ago

Or we are on our phones because the movies repeat their themes over and over and over again

[-] gustofwind@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

i dunno, most people i see watch netflix seem to use it as just another mode of stimulus because they need to always be completely inundated with flashing screens at all times to feel calm

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[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 32 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's not just me, right? Modern movies and shows have less things happen in same duration of time.

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[-] fort_burp@feddit.nl 26 points 1 month ago

Can't believe how prescient this movie was. We're on our way!

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[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago

Bad movies need to do this. You know, the average movie Netflix signs off on.

[-] TheFonz@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

I think Netflix manufactured this problem first. Originally they were going for volume so they added a lot of padding to their og shows. To the point I stopped watching (torrenting) any Netflix originals. So people got in the habit of doing other stuff while waiting for the plot to start moving again. Now they claim that their shows are meant for second screens. Motherfucker: we are in the golden age of TV, so there's plenty of engaging content being produced. Marvelous Mrs. Maisle is so fast paced and brilliant I never felt the need to pick up my phone.

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[-] riskable@programming.dev 14 points 1 month ago

Talk about the wrong response!

If they want people to not look away or do something else while the movie is playing you gotta keep it interesting.

Ya know, like perhaps making movies that aren't just rehashes of the same old stories.

Make movies and shows that keep people on their toes!

Making a crime drama? Throw in some traveler from the future or a demon or both! Give the judge two heads because of a "merging accident" or something!

Putting together a horror movie? Throw in some romance among the monsters! Have them feed each other eyeballs or something!

Making an anime? Try something totally radical! Like a male protagonist with non-dark hair that has a personality, or make a couple—in love—who get stuck somewhere together, alone have actual sex (like normal teens would) or something!

Making a K-drama? Add a black guy and make him one of the main characters... Haha, just kidding! That would be too radical! That'd be just as extreme as making an anime that covers the time period a few years after "the hero" formed his harem!

[-] MotoAsh@piefed.social 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Interesting takes skill. Skill takes money. Capitalists don't care about skill or art. They are only interested in money.

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[-] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

You could absolutely do it in a funny way like Kronk (Emperors New Groove) or Luis (Ant-Man).

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Now I'm curious, am I checking my phone after they've repeated the same thing 3 or 4 times and now I'm bored / annoyed?

[-] calliope@retrolemmy.com 9 points 1 month ago

I think I read a different article about this months ago!

For some reason I’m kind of surprised to hear about it again because not a lot of people seem to talk about it.

[-] yogurt@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

The amount of reciprocal effort art is socially allowed to demand from the audience changes. The art form gets refined and people respect that and are willing to invest more attention, then at some point it's opera and nobody goes because it requires too much attention and respect. Netflix might suck but on the other hand Christopher Nolan is making movies with inaudible dialogue and Game of Thrones has invisible fight scenes because they got out of hand with it and think they can demand you only watch their thing alone in a soundproof HDR screening room.

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